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Re:Krisnamurti and nihilism

Apr 22, 1998 03:59 AM
by Dallas TenBroeck

April 22nd 1998

Dear Alan:

Anyone who has been through a NDE knows for a fact that the real
entity within is alive and well, regardless of what is going on
in the body, which is then seen as a vehicle that has been
temporarily put into storage, (or in the garage) and while
"things" are done to, or for it.

As to what Theosophy teaches on the "After-Death States" and the
peregrination from one life (death) to the next (rebirth) I think
you will find that HPB has well covered the subject in THE KEY TO
THEOSOPHY (Original Edition) pp. 101 to 176.

In THE OCEAN OF THEOSOPHY, Mr. Judge covers the same ground (not
as Question and Answer format) pp. 60 to 116. He says virtually
the same things that HPB does, but of course his style differs.
Most of those who met Theosophy through T S (Adyar, London,
Wheaton, etc.) are still unfamiliar with Mr. Judge's writings --
say the "Ocean," the "Bhagavad Gita and "Notes" thereon, and
"Patanjali's Yoga Aphorisms" which he translated from Sanskrit --
and those are valuable texts, especially Patanjali, as it gives a
most marvelous inside view of Psychology, taking the Higher Self
and the "embodied mind" into account. It also covers the "path"
of discipleship, of meditation, and of mind-control.

You may have read them [ KEY and OCEAN] some time ago, but a
quick re-read gives one the theoretical basis that Theosophy
advances to explain what happens to the various "principles" in
this exchange/continuation process. Neither AB nor CWL or other
writers in the "Adyar fold" cover these states and progressions
like HPB does, and she was the Teacher's messenger -- some
Messenger ! (In my esteem, not to be neglected or diminished in
thought. At least the KEY is not " Too difficult." )

It is useful to know what is said there, as after HPB's death, a
number of writers arose, who wrote so as to palliate the
"susceptibilities and prejudices" of those who were
"spiritualists" by inclination and desire -- but who did not
enjoy what Theosophy had to say about the "Spirits of the
Departed." In other words facts as contrasted with sentiment !

 IMO the theory ought to be well known. Best wishes,

>From: "Dr A M Bain" <>
>Date: Tuesday, April 21, 1998 7:38 PM
>Subject: Re:Krisnamurti and nihilism

>Thoa Tran <> writes
>>How, then, to maintain such a contact with
>>the higher selves when you are out working a regular job,
talking to
>>regular folks, watching popular media, etc.?
>Can't be done without giving up *some* of the time spent in
>otherwise worthy pursuits, IMO. However, to make the best use
>higher self, contact with others *at any level* is essential.
>> The problem I have with HPB's
>>statement was that it creates exclusivity. The statement
basically states
>>that individuals who are in environments that helps them
maintain contact
>>with their higher selves will evolve, whereas all others (and
many all
>>others) are in danger of destroying their Antahkarana.


Dallas says:

How does HPB promote "exclusivity" ?

Does a professor teaching in his class room create "exclusivity:"
among his pupils ?

Yes, as they gradually can acquire from him what he knows, and to
that extent they "gather around him" and offer to others the
benefits they thus acquired, which, may well put them on a
"superior level" (apparently, and in terms of head-learning) to
the average.

But inasmuch as Theosophy teaches that we all bathe in the
Universal Spirit and are ONE in essence, none is in fact
"superior" to anyone else.
So it is us, as personalities, who feel either superior or
inferior to others, and that on resolution is seen to be only a
temporary state. !

Contact between the embodied mind (our daily mind, awake and
questioning, working, etc...) and the interior HIGHER SELF
(Intuition, voice of Conscience, etc... including real wisdom and
memory) is always functional. We can evoke it at any time. In
fact, when we are about to make a harmful choice it obtrudes on
us, as a WARNING.

It is extraordinary how, if this concept of an indwelling WISE
ENTITY is adopted how much many events in our lives become
resolved -- attain a greater perspective of reality. But, to me,
this is the fun part of the great adventure. Who wants to remain
ignorant ?
Some pay attention to it, and some call it "a gut feeling !"
Others reject it if they think they would enjoy or profit from
another course of action -- and: "Damn the torpedoes !"

Each to their own, and Karma catch the hindmost, as it does in
any case, like it or not. With all this fine information why do
we not give it a very serious amount of consideration ? If we
hesitate, it shows us how much our "sentiment" and "inclinations"
still rule our "minds."

So who is the ruler ? Who is the "We" ? What is its relation
to the HIGHER SELF ? What is the "HIGHER SELF ?" etc., etc.,

As far as I know, the ANTASKARANA is described in THE VOICE OF
THE SILENCE, in a footnote (p.55) and it is the fine thread of
connection between the embodied mind ( Lower Manas - related to
Kama-desire and passion ) and the Buddhi-Manas ( or Higher Mind -
morally adjusted to wisdom and universality).

All the best, Dallas

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