Theos-Talk Archives (April 1998 Message tt00024)

Jeffrey Michael Hoover wrote:
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> Magi42 said Saturday, April 04, 1998 4:22 PM:
> >a former as well as a future GWB Messenger.
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> Mark Kusek wrote Saturday, April 04, 1998 5:22 PM:
> >I'd say he's talking about Elizabeth Clare Prophet.
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> Yes. That is who is the current Messenger.
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> I will elaborate on your answer and Magi42's question:
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> In this e-mail I submit to you the following quotes for discuss=
ion. As for a
> messenger before HPB, correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think there=
 was
> one. What signs did HPB leave for her followers to locate a messenger =
within
> the final quarter century we are are living?
> =

> These quotes were written by Blavatsky in 1889:
> "..I must tell you that during the last quarter of every hundred years =
an
> attempt is made by those "Masters," of whom I have spoken, to help on t=
he
> spiritual progress... Towards the close of each century you will invari=
ably
> find that... Some one or persons have appeared in the world as their ag=
ents,
> and a greater or less amount of occult knowledge and teaching has been =
given
> out. ..you can trace these movements back, century by century, as far a=
s our
> detailed historical records extend.."
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> "If the present attempt, ...succeeds... then it will be in existence .=
=2E.when
> the time comes for the effort of the XXth century. ...the next impulse =
will
> find a numerous and united body of people ready to welcome the new torc=
h-bearer
> of Truth. He will find the minds of men prepared for his message, a lan=
guage
> ready for him in which to clothe the new truths he brings, an organizat=
ion
> awaiting his arrival, which will remove the merely mechanical, material=

> obstacles and difficulties from his path."
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> H.P. Blavatsky, The Key to Theosophy (London: Theosophical Publishing C=
o.,
> 1889), pp. 306-307.
> =

> I will answer the second question,
> =

> >who is the current GWB Messenger?
> =

> by text copied from the current Messenger's WEB page. I invite open di=
scussion
> regarding this information.
> =

> The Messengers
> www.tsl.org
> =

> The ...masters work with individuals in all traditions
> throughout the earth. But when they find people who are spiritually sen=
sitive,
> they train them to directly receive their messages and new teachings. T=
he
> masters can also use these messengers to convey their light and spiritu=
al
> blessing=97which helps transform those who hear the messages.
> The tradition of messengers, best seen in the prophets of th=
e Old
> Testament, is ancient. The masters want their friends on earth to keep =
pace
> with the spiritual and practical needs of the hour. And they've kept th=
eir
> lines of communication open through their messengers.
> In the late 1950s, the ascended master El Morya chose Mark L=
=2E
> Prophet to receive the teachings of the ascended masters. In 1958, Mark=
 Prophet
> founded The Summit Lighthouse and distributed these teachings in letter=
s called
> Pearls of Wisdom. Today, the masters dictate these teachings to Elizabe=
th Clare
> Prophet.
> Elizabeth Clare Prophet receives messages, or "dictations," from=
> ascended masters by the power of the Holy Spirit. When she takes a dict=
ation,
> she experiences a dramatic increase in vibration and an expansion of
> consciousness that allows her to convey the words and energies of the m=
aster
> who is speaking through her. During a dictation, she is in a heightened=
 state
> of consciousness, but she does not go into a trance. She is not psychic=
 or a
> channel.
> There is a tendency to call anyone who purports to convey
> information from a nonphysical source a "channel" and to describe their=
 work as
> "channeling." Channeling is similar to 19th-century spiritualism. Like =
mediums
> past and present, most channels make psychic contact with unascended sp=
irits on
> the astral plane. In short, they communicate with the deceased who have=
 no more
> wisdom than they had when they were alive, however great that may have =
been. In
> any case, they do not have the wisdom of the ascended masters, the immo=
rtals
> who have graduated from schoolroom earth and have reunited with God in =
the
> ritual of the ascension. Because of their self-mastery and oneness with=
 God,
> the ascended masters are the preeminent teachers of mankind.
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Could there be others who are also messengers? =

mkr