Theos-Talk Archives (January 1998 Message tt00094)

Jan 13th 1998

Dear Brenda:

What I meant to say is that the MONAD being a part of the Universal All has
properties that are the same as its source.  To me, this includes eternity,
as to time, and immortality as to its existence in the past/present/future
of which we are aware as memory (past) choice (present) and anticipation
(future) -- I hope that my meaning is now clearer


What is the "Soul"  -- to me, it is essentially the "mind."  As I see it
there are two "mes"  one is the 'soul" which comes, as mind, gradually into
existence as I have had experience in this life-time.  But thinking over
the fact that I have some limitations and some facilities which I did not
"learn" in this life, it occurs to me (as brain-mind of this life-time)
that there is another "me" which was trained at an earlier time.  In the
case of the anathemas hurled against Origen it was the idea of
"pre-existence."  If the Church admitted pre-existence, then reincarnation
(a universal teaching among the "pagans" and the "heathen," then) would be
one of their tenets and they would have to use that to explain many things
which were cut away, if the Church only admitted of the special creation of
a "soul" (which they do not define, or do they ?) for each human body in
each lifetime, taken as a detached event with no relation to any priority
of living.  [ They have a tough time with hypnotic regression and with Near
Death Experiences.]

If from the theosophical point of view there is correctness, and the Soul
is the Real Man -- and his mind is one of its functions -- then it
certainly bridges many gaps of consciousness, as for instance, sleep,
trance, anesthesia, death, and the vast gap of Pralaya too -- that is if
Karma as Law is the governing fact of Universal existence.

I wonder if this is of any help at all.  do let me know.

Dallas TenBroeck

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> From: "Brenda S Tucker" <brenda@theosophy.com>
> Subject: Re:Fractals
> Date: Monday, January 12, 1998 2:06 PM
>
>
> >4.	Eternity and immortality are concepts which we create in terms of 1.
> >Memory and 2,  Anticipation.
> >
>
> >1.	There is an immortal EGO (MONAD) which is rooted in the immortality
and
> >eternity of the ABSOLUTENESS.  The "HIGHER SELF,' in other words is a
"ray"
> >of THAT.  (SD I 570-575).
>
> On the pages you reference, there is very little mention of immortal. HPB
> admits that the occult view is opposed to the Christian teaching that the
> soul can not be called eternal - because Christians say there was a
> beginning, but no end. - Then she proceeds to describe monad,
> atma-buddhi-manas, but without reference to immortal. However, she does,
in
> part, describe immortal man as a being in pralaya, or between two
> manvantaras, by saying the disciple is "without form and action, abandons
> this illusive body..."
>
> Because that is what immortal is, I think, very obviously immortal, means
> without mortal form, cannot die and is not born. But when the cycle of
> manvantara returns, all sparks will return to the wheel of rebirth.
>
>