Theos-Talk Archives (November 1997 Message tt00143)

At 09:02 AM 11/7/1997 EST, you wrote:
>According to Jerry Schueler:
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>> Good or bad can be found in the motive, not in the operation itself.
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>> Jerry S.
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>That's disregarding the *effect* of the "operation" on others.
>Which can certainly be good or bad, or mixed.

I'm reading STUDIES IN THE BHAGAVAD GITA by A Dreamer to prepare for a
speech on karma and reincarnation that's coming up and I'm really learning
something. The book discusses how soul powers or latent egoic energies
unfold in individuals in manifestation and one striking point is that the
book doesn't claim we should use our egoic energies to always keep our
vehicles under control. The book claims that pleasure draws forth the egoic
energies and that pain forces a withdrawal of the ego for the desired
effect: the vehicles, including of course the atoms, can now respond to all
of the other outer lives around them. That without a harmonizing with the
outer - Ishvara or Logos - in manifestation, these lives are being thwarted
in their path towards independence and self-consciousness. The ego's
purpose is to know itself and through contact with the lower worlds of form
the egos express and that once these powers are revealed, the ego no longer
needs the form. At the indrawing where the ego "lives in the eternal"
existing without form consciousness, the forms and the lesser lives making
up the forms can react and respond to the macrocosm, which is very
necessary. That's why for people who don't recognize cosmic intelligences,
angels, etc., they are headed for pain, because an ego controlling its
bodies is not what is intended by the scheme of evolution. The ego is to
unfold its powers and then live without bodies for a time. The atoms have
to be developed by the ego's energies and vibrations, but also by the
energies which man must recognize: cosmic laws of logoic forces, so we only
have a part in raising them to self-consciousness. The Logos has the other
part.