Theos-Talk Archives (November 1997 Message tt00049)

Can anyone direct me to some reading regarding the karmic reasons for
reincarnation of identical twins? How would the lifeatoms respond to
forming the bodies of such close vibrational harmonies? Do they then share
so much karma in common that they have a chance to act it out in one
embodiment?
I am familiar with G.DePurucker, and Judge, & HPB, but not some other
writers. I don't think there was anything mentioned in the books I have
about identical twins. Help!! Nancy

> Date Friday, October 31, 1997 7:03 AM
> From Dallas TenBroeck <dalval@nwc.net>
> Subject Re:Reincarnation
>
> Oct 31st 1997
>
> Dear Brenda: on Reincarnation
>
> As far as my studies show the following seems reasonable:
>
> 1. The continued sense of my own identity.
>
> 2. A sense of being related to all those around me -- we are so alike in
> essentials, and differ only in minor, personal partculars.
>
> 3. If Deity is EVERYWHERE, then I too am part of IT. If IT is
> "omnipresent," "omniscient," and "omnipotent," then, I too share in a
> small way, perhaps potentially, in those characteristics. I will agree
> that one life is inadequate as a learning experience, so why not many in
> which that which is learned is stored and used in growing increments ?
>
> 4. If we call this "evolution," then we influence all our surroundings.
It
> is said, for instance, we are now (in body) what we eat ! But all that
we
> eat we do not retain. If there is selectivity operating, then in our
> bodies is an operative intelligence of which we are so far quite unaware.

> We are tennants here. We are also acting as though we were "owners" and
> "directors," and we take or leave as we desire and choose.
>
> 5. Where does the power to "desire," and "choose" arise from ?
>
> 6. Who are we who employ it ?
>
> 7. Where does the "Voice of Conscience" arise ? What is our general
> moral/ethical sense ? How is it that the laws all around the world use
> almost identical scales of value and responsibility -- with a few
> exceptions where tribes have devised their own, and have perverted the
> norms -- as exceptions.
>
> 8. If we should be limited to one life, why is it that we try to do so
much
> -- at least, some of us ? And, why do others do solittle and prey on
those
> who are willing (or unwilling) to support them ?
>
> 9. As to the developing MANHOOD -- would this not be comparable to
> progression through a School/college where annually individual progress
is
> assessed and increments permitted those who pass a norm. If the
> culmination of such a program is a high degree in one or more subjects
> would not those we denominate " Masters " be evidence (at least in idea)
of
> such potential attainment ? I think the analogy while not accurate has
> some validity. I also think that the way we view our life is a serious
> mattter as you seem to do.
>
> 10. There are passages I can quote you from the Bible which show you that
> given the opportunity to deny reincarnation, Jesus did not do so.
> Similarly if you go through the Koran, you will find some passages
(suras)
> there in which the idea of pre-existence is implied or accepted. If you
> pass on to the Buddha you will note that he had two levels of teaching --
> one for the general populace, and another to the select group he called
> "his "Own."
> An example of this will be found quoted in the KEY TO THEOSOPHY, it is in
a
> footnote, pp 80-81 embodied in a conversation between the Buddha and his
> initiated disciple Ananda.
>
> 11. Again as to contact with the Masters. Why not use what I consider a
> valid parallel: Why should a freshman at the University expect or demand
> that he see the President or Dean or chancellor of his University ? It
> would depend on necessity, if there was something truly vital that had to
> be communicated. But if it is curiosity, why waste the time of the Head
of
> the university ? When a necesity exists, the Masters will be aware of
it,
> and then if there is merit in the candidate one might expect some kind of
> communication.
>
> But there is much closer level of connection in wich we participlate all
> the time, and that is with the "ray" of the Universal divinity which is
> already present in us. If we doubt this, then of what value would it be
to
> "see or talk to a Master ?" What have we done ? who are we, to make
> either claim or aspiration -- especially if we have not learned to comune
> with our own "Inner 'God'" -- the 'Higher Self ?" and, please, I include
> myself in this level and stage. Why should I be so impertinent as to try
> to disturb them in their work ?
>
> 12. We all have at our hands the "message." Are we studying it and using
> it ? Any answer can only be given within ourselves and not to others.
>
> If you thinkk we neeed the 3rd volume of the Sd, my answer is that we
have
> not yet masterd the first 2 volumes -- at least I know that I have not
yet.
>
> Is this discouraging ? Not at all. we can all TRY.
>
> Dallas
>
> > Date Friday, October 31, 1997 11:54 PM
> > From Brenda S. Tucker <brenda@theosophy.com>
> > Subject: Reincarnation
> >
> > I'd like to continue the discussion of Johnsons books a little more.
> >
> > The evidence in the history of the founding of the T.S. is one approach
> to