Theos-Talk Archives (July 1996 Message tt00010)

Eldon Writes:

Some of the most spiritual humans will remain behind on our earth
as the sishtas when the human lifewave departs it for globe E.
They will experience an Golden Age.  They hold the seeds of the
humanity to come, of the human lifewave that will return in the
Fifth Round.

In "Dialogues", Purucker mentions some interesting points
regarding animal sishtas.  The mammals are becoming sishtas,
except for the apes.  (III 191) In the Sixth and Seventh Races
the apes will enter the human kingdom.  (III 412)

The animal lifewave is becoming sishtas, the remainder of
evolutionary impetus in their kingdom is departing.  They've
finished, I think, their Seventh Root Race.

It will be in the middle of the Fifth Round when the door into
the lowest Dhyani Chohanic Kingdom will close, and some humans
will enter, becoming dhyani-chohanic humans, the remainder of us
to remain as human humans for the remainder of the Seven Rounds.

Bee Writes: Can't argue with that.  The animal part is rather
complicated so I am a bit vague on it.

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The sishtas represent humanity on this Globe when the lifewave
has departed.  Although humanity has come to an evolutionary
stop, as an aggregrate, individual humans may find rebirth on
this globe in their hastened personal evolution.

We might, if advanced enough, visit the other globes of the
planetary chain.  In our after-death states, were we to visit
globes E, F, and G, we'd either have to create a temporary form
(mayavi-rupa) or embody in the human sishtas on that globe.  (See
III 319)

Bee writes: I get a bit put out that some parts of my composite
being are doing all these interesting things and this part,
sitting here now, doesn't know anything about it.  The problem
with these discussions is also the ? which monadic aspects are we
talking about.  I understand that the sishtas are the human monad
which is what is evolving on this chain not the spiritual or the
Divine.  Is that what GdeP calls the Reimbodying Ego? Or is it
the Reincarnating ego? I think there is a difference in his view.

Eldon Writes:

Could the same thing happen to the human kingdom? When the human
lifewave has departed and the first wave of Dhyani-Chohans
arrives, could the human habitat for existing "in the wild"
dissappear, and the humans become domesticated by the demigods?

Bee writes:

I understand that to be so.

And similarly, could the basic human stock start to dissappear,
and a newer, higher race of humanity be created, thrown off by
the Dhyani Chohans in a similar fashion to how the animal sishtas
(the mammals) where thrown off by the humans?

Bee Writes:

I am sure I read that the human sishtas remain pretty much the
same and it is the next life-waves' job to create the higher race
as is the case now.  I believe that the seeds of the 6th race is
stirring somewhere and will be different from the 5th which is in
its developmental time now.  I understand that sexual
differentiation will disappear and some other method of
procreation will be used.  Perhaps we will imagine our baby in
our minds and then use our powers of concentration to assemble
the life-atoms to create it in real time :-)

Eldon writes:

Purucker expands the sevenfold system to twelvefold.  He
mentiones three elemental Rounds before the seven, and two more
afterwards, making twelve.  The same would apply to the Root
Races.  In this system, we'd have to wonder if the mammals are
animals after the 12th animal race, or are animals in the Eighth
Root Race.  Any ideas?

Bee writes:

GdeP does say that these extra systems especially after the 10
are not really able to be understood by our present brain power
so it would only be speculation and analogy, which he is fond of.
Once the door is closed to animal monads they remain as such but
much later, in the next chain, they become the animal-human monad
that will be like us now, in that chain.  The animals that made
it will perhaps be junior human-monads who will be looked after
by the human-monads that didn't quite make it in the previous
chain and so are more evolved than them.  The gods and teachers
of our ancient history perhaps.

Many thanks for this interesting discussion.  I have discovered a
lot of interesting things in the process.