Theos-Talk Archives (July 1996 Message tt00001)

Dear Bee:

> I thought that the most spiritually evolved of our human life
> wave would remain as the sishtas on globe D because they did not
> need the experience of going through Globes E,F,G, and that they
> were the ones that held the seeds so to speak, of the next
> physical vehicles of the life wave on Globe D in round 5, not the
> Dhyani-Chohans.

You are correct in defining Sishtas as the "seeds of life" which
await the "inflow of the next incoming Life-wave when the dawn of
the new manvantara takes place on that planet." So that basic
definitions are understood it would benefit all on Theos.talk to
confer with G.de P's definition in his ~Occult Glossary.~ Also
one needs to realize that Eldon's views seem to be based on his
interpretation of G.  de P's teachings.  Before reading G.de P.
it would be wise to read what H.P.B.'s ~Secret Doctrine~ has to
say about the Dhyani-Chohans involvement in man's evolution.
Otherwise confusion results such as in statements made that the
"animals will be ahead of man in the next round." Or as to
thinking that man will drop out of evolution and have to be
re-created for the next globes.  According to the ~Occult
Glossary~ the Sishtas are dormant, resting while they wait for
the new cycle of activity as the "seeds of the new kingdom or
kingdoms---be it the three Elemental Kingdoms or the Mineral or
Vegetable or the Beast or the next Humanity.

In a more restricted and still more specific sense, the Sishtas
are the great Elect, or Sages, left behind after every
Obscuration."

THEREFORe:

Bee's further consideration is correct:

> I also wondered if the Dhyani-Chohans needed to incarnate on
> Globe D this time as they must be more evolved than the sishtas
> this life wave leaves behind.

My understanding is that the Dhyani-Chohans developed from the
highest Beings of the former Manvantara (this time with a capital
`M') and while certain classes withdrew to let Mankind develop in
this Manvantara to their state, others remained to guide and some
to incarnate.  Therefore they are more evolved that the sistas of
this life-wave.  This complex evolution of man can be found in
Volume I of the ~Secret Doctrine~ in several places, or Geoffrey
Baraborka's ~The Divine Plan.~ (See Chapter III, and especially
p.69 onwards.) Also I feel that Man's development is continually
upward throughout the next rounds and globes.

We note that G.de P.  used a small "m" to signify the
"manvantara" to take place with a new incoming Life-wave on the
same planet.  An important clarification is in his ~Occult
Glossary~ under the term "Obscuration" where he speaks of the
difference between an obscuration and a "pralaya" where he notes
on p.118 that the "distinction between pralaya and obscuration is
an extremely important one."

I believe that in Eldon's discussion he must be thinking of
"obscuration" which is sleep or dormancy.  G.de P.  goes on to
clarify:

"Thus is it with each one of the seven globes of the Planetary
Chain, one after the other, each one going into obscuration when
a life-wave has left it, *so far as that particular Life-wave is
concerned.* When the final or rather the last representatives of
the last Root-race, of the last Life-weave, leave it, each globe
then goes to sleep or into dormancy.".............[its worth
reading the rest from page 118].

Therefore Bee is correct in stating that these Sistas exist over
long periods of obscuration, and do not mutate in such a fashion
implied by the article concerned.

We all need, including myself, to get the definitions of terms
straight, and it is indeed a very complex teaching to address
correspondents of various backgrounds and familiarity with
basics.  I admire Eldon's wish to clarify abstractions, though
wish sources for statements might be given at times.

Sincerely yours, Dara