Theos-Talk Archives (January 2012 Message tt00015)

John, truth about what?
Cass



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>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, 4 January 2012 5:37 PM
>Subject: Re: theos-talk On Alice Bailey and Blavatsky
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>Hmmm, 
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>I f PerfectTruth exists: 
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> What could it be???????????????? Where could it be?????????????? Is it inside i t outside of me or both????????????????????? If "TRUTH" is theÂPerfect absence of ERROR then how could it be located in matter, energy, space or time since all are based upon a postulated reality that is based upon postulation of imperfection which translates as error? Maya is an Illusion in contrast to the Non-dual boundless primordial original NATURE where Truth makes it's perfect Home. Since that H ome is Boundless all that is that we are and all that is that is ABOUT us is "IT", nothing is beyond, outside, or seperated from IT. Becau se IT is the ALL there can be no Paths to I T becau se It is everywhere Âand there is nowhere that is outside of I T. The Play of L IFE is the play of Perfect P rimordial Consciousness which is boundless and beyond contemplation of conditioned minds (a prerequisite requirement in order that the Play of Life may take on the apperancy
 of a reailty with dimensions which can produce matter,energy, space and time illusion)  . Each step we take is taken within IT, the Vei l of the postulated Maya must prevent notice of our Original Primordial Sel f NatureÂlest the mock up of Matte r, Energy, Space and Time Âin which we all have participation in as the extended units of A wareness of the Absolute should disappear and end the Game of Leela. In our collective Universal Original Primordial Self nature which has never had Interval or Gap we do KNOW Truth is our P ossession, but in the projected maya of matter ,energy, space and time it is made relative due to the temporality of the secondary universes wherein the Game of Leela finds it's play ground. Unity of Three - the Divine Fire in the midst of Life and Wisdom. 
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>John 
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>From: "Cass Silva" <silva_cass@puKQFRMcnvyyP4t8zPrBxA6_1Iu73oYuASulIaMcn0eTFW3pm2IEti11WxyfmRvIzi-sWn7BDF8RKtPzg6I.yahoo.invalid> 
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>Sent: Tuesday, January 3, 2012 6:17:49 PM 
>Subject: Re: theos-talk On Alice Bailey and Blavatsky 
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>I guess I took it as 'a path implies that others can take the same path, but he seems to be saying, as you say, the way to enlightenment (truth) is not via a path but rather a direction. ÂWho knows. 
>Cass 
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>> From: M. Sufilight < global-theosophy@omYvJiXtoOZdZ5vRiE8jnuasrduvmgcSHMhIbBqqDoMTXn-sEUG2ZFXi3-FeZTCM_LhUUlMT0b4ii31aT8UFBxyjXw.yahoo.invalid > 
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, 3 January 2012 9:24 PM 
>>Subject: Re: theos-talk On Alice Bailey and Blavatsky 
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>>Me too. 
>>I often wonder about what this expression actually - says. 
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>>Here is my own words on it shortly stated... 
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>>There is no Religion Highter than the Truth. (The motto of the Theosophical Society - adopted from the Maharajahs of Benares in India). 
>>It is scientifically speaking known that truth or truths are relative. Blavatsky and other theosophists also agreed on this. 
>>And in fact actual Truth as such is without form. The world is illusorical, yet the truth is always shown there. 
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>>To call Truth a The Pathless Land is in fact nonsense. Truth is not a "land" and will never be one. 
>>So such a Truth must be without form else it cannot be "pathless". But when it is without form - it cannot be a "land" in any actual sense of the word. - The energy in the expression tend to omit that actual Truth cannot be a Pathless Land in any sense unless Duality is completely removed in core of the individuals consciousness. Yet we known that Krishnamurti who used the expression also meant that removal of a time-based consciousness, and thereby duality, was essential, to the required psychological change. 
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>>The esoteric Prasangika Buddhists and some Adwaita Vedantists would parhaps have instead go and say: 
>>There is no truth, there is no land, there is no path - there is only Absolute Negation. 
>>But an esoteric theosophist will perhaps say - what you call Absolute Negation we call the TRUTH. All other truths are steppingstones towards this Absolute Negation. And this Absolute Negation is negation of all limitations and all thought. 
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>>But these are just my views... 
>>Maybe those who know the Kirhsnamurti teachings better, have something to offer. 
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>>M. Sufilight 
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>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Cass Silva 
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 12:21 AM 
>>Subject: Re: theos-talk On Alice Bailey and Blavatsky 
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>>I have often wondered what "Truth is a pathless land' really means! 
>>Cass 
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>>>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
>>>Sent: Sunday, 1 January 2012 5:16 AM 
>>>Subject: Re: theos-talk On Alice Bailey and Blavatsky 
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>>>In the final analysis, IMHO, what is important is the conclusions each one 
>>>of us come to. Truth is a pathless land. 
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>>>> On Alice Bailey and Blavatsky 
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>>>> Here is a link to a critical study on Alice Bailey's writings, or 
>>>> mediumship, by Victor Endersby, and Why Bailey is NOT "the same as 
>>>> Blavatsky," or the same as Theosophy. 'One of the "sects" sufilight refers 
>>>> to. So many jumped on Blavatsky's shirt-tails, and now, in the Night-time 
>>>> of the spiritual cycles, long after the "the last-quarter effort," they 
>>>> become more predominant, like other night-creatures. 
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>>>> > http://www.scribd.com/doc/37333476/A-Critique-of-Alice-Bailey-Endersby < 
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>>>> "Ninety-nine percent of all spiritual communications are prima facie 
>>>> false." Mahatma Letters (paraphrase) 
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