Theos-Talk Archives (October 2011 Message tt00150)

Cass,
 
Maybe you misunderstood the context of the quotations I used on 'christian saviour'. The emphasis was definitely on that, due to the discussion of Christ and Christos. HPB mentioned and made reference to the christian saviour as we saw, and as John so kindly came back with further reference we are appreciative of that also. So whether Apollonius was serving as a great Initiate with kings and royalty or with the poor or working class or enslaved, so to speak, is of no moment to me or the discussion. The point being that it contained within yet another mention of the Christian saviour. HPB from 'Isis' was merely addressing a point of question to show another view. Anyway, the overall point is that Blavatsky also made a comparison and gave authenticity to Christ the man and initiate, like Krishna the man and Initiate. This was compared with the Christos and buddhi-manas, so potentially within us all and as part of the true human constitution. Thanks to you and MKR, also. 
 
"On the other hand, regarded in the light of the LOGOS, the Christian Saviour, like Krishna, whether as man or logos, may be said to have saved those who believed in the secret teachings from "eternal death," to have conquered the Kingdom of Darkness, or Hell, as every Initiate does. This in the human, terrestrial form of the Initiates, and also because the logos is Christos, that principle of our inner nature which develops in us into the Spiritual Ego -- the Higher-Self -- being formed of the indissoluble union of Buddhi (the sixth) and the spiritual efflorescence of Manas" SD2 230. 

 

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> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 18:55:29 -0700
> Subject: Re: theos-talk the Christian Saviour, like Krishna
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> I think Jeremy is wrong.  Apollonius mixed with Kings nor was he humble and didn't suffer fools.
> Cass
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> http://www.blavatsky.net/magazine/theosophy/ww/setting/apollonius.html
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> >From: MKR <mkr777@hiKBbNxfWKt38614ApsXLK3Uu6poj2Y7RI2h21Lepty5M5vfuHGFiyMzcQiDk6pNbV7kYlMu.yahoo.invalid>
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> >Subject: Re: theos-talk the Christian Saviour, like Krishna
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> >Your message is timely and should make all theosophists to think. The
> >quote below reminds me of Shri Shankaracharya's attempt to reform the
> >Hinduism steeped in rituals and other religious ceremonies which many
> >believed will please the Gods. He too emphasized that our daily acts
> >are very important and only through wisdom one can attain salvation
> >and not by rituals. With many of the Hindu rituals, the salaried
> >priestcraft took control of the masses through fear that no performing
> >rituals will bring bad luck. Priestcraft traditionally take control of
> >the masses through fear.
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> >On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Jeremy Condick
> ><jpcondick2011@sLd-Q3y86mIkoBo-PQnden-osy_ttCXu6F20Md3uHsiBiTFZezv-3jGp-jz8X1iGrGFjnsPrYo86dOPuQM-Rkg.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> >> "Like Buddha and Jesus, Apollonius was the uncompromising enemy of all outward show of piety, all display of useless religious ceremonies and hypocrisy. If, like the Christian Saviour, the sage of Tyana had by preference sought the companionship of the poor and humble"... IU2 341.
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