Theos-Talk Archives (July 2011 Message tt00035)

Morten, 
Thanks, I agree . Here are the liunk for the collected writings Blavatsky mention you point oo: 

Blavatsky about reincarnation in Tibet and the Tashi and Dalai Lama differentiations: 

>>>http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v4/y1882_022.htm<<< 

and a couple of links about the history of the Dual Lama's of Tibet 

Tsashi Lhunpo UK Trust 

>>>http://www.tashi-lhunpo.org.uk/15.html<<< 

A Short Tibetan History 

>>>http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/mistic/lobsang_rampa/tibetkont.htm<<< 

Also Daniel Caldwell posted the Peking edition of the Voice of the Silence and in that post there is a Photo of the same Tashi Lama that Alice Cleather and Basil Crump personally visited I mentioned. Google search "Tashi Lama of Tashi Lhum-po" 

John 

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Yes. 
And I would like to add, that the Dalai Lama office became a political institution when the 5th Dalai Lama had office. 

1st Dalai Lama did not have any political office. 
"Gendun Drup had no political power. It was in the hands of viceroys such as the Sakyas, the prince of Tsang, and the Mongolian Khan. The political role of the Dalai Lamas only began with the reign of the 5th Dalai Lama." 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1st_Dalai_Lama 

H. P. Blavatsky also wrote something about that, which can be found in Blavatsky's Collected Writings or the Glossary. 

M. Sufilight 

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mkr, 
The Panchen Lama is also caled the "Tashi Lama" and his residence is at Tashilhumpo. It used to be before the Chinese invaded Tibet that the Tashi Lama was the Spiritual Guru of the all Tibetans and represented one of the reflexive rays or emanations of of Avalokitesvara, the Dalai Lama during those time represented the "Administrative" reflex or emanation of the Avalokitesvara. As a consequence of the Chinese kidnapping the Tashi Lama the Dalai Lama at that time had to wear two hats and perform both roles due to the long term absence of the Tashi Lama. 

Alice Leighton Cleather and her co-author Basil Crump had personal auditions with the Tashi Lama Panchen Lobsang Tub-ten Cho-gyi Nyima the 6th Grand Lamaa of Tashi-lhum-po, installed in 1888 at Tashilhumpo Temple in Tibet. 

You can read on the plate following p.66 of Alice Cleathers Book Buddhism The Science of Life, 1928, Peking, China the special plate show the photo of the 6th Tashi Lama. Alice Cleather on the descriptive onion sheet say Blavatsky was given similar audience to the Tashi Lama in the 1860's. A special Title of the Tashi Lama is "Panchen Rimpoche'" meaning "Jewel of Wisdom or Knowledge". The differentiation of the two receptories of the two emanations that are received by the Tashi as spiritual Mentor of Tibet and the Dalai Lama as the Adminsitrative Mentor of Tibet has become obscured due to historical events. 

Sir Charles Bell and Dr. Sven Hedin have both written in their books of their great appreciation of thier reception of the present Tashi Lama (the 6th) . 

I hope Daniel can place "Buddhism the Science of Life" by Alice Leighton Cleaver and Basil Crump, 1928, Peking, chine in the wonderful Archive he has created. Cleather has much to tell in her book about the Secret Doctrine, K.H Lal Singh . Madame Blavatskys teachings and more. 
John 

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Thanks for the link hpbspeaks. 

I noted in the writeup that HPB was mentioning about Panchen Lama and that 
he is a high initiate and knows about the Adepts who reside north of the 
Himalayan Range. There is no mention of Dalai Lama who is well known in the 
West. Very few know about Panchen Lama. 

Is there any discussion anywhere about the relative occult standing of Dalai 
Lama in HPB's writings or other literature? And this would interest some. 

MKR 

On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Daniel < danielhcaldwell@nSYlOPABrDnnkXIpw9xWDTNuksbPzbyr8-N0UKFp4JAWDHZATSNLG_wHv2PfWQSyGH23DWV9QBFzy8SKg6_hzF_32w.yahoo.invalid > wrote: 

> ** 
> 
> 
> H.P. Blavatsky wrote: 
> 
> ----------------------------------------- 
> With all our many failures, at least we may claim to have placed before the 
> thinking public a logical, coherent, and philosophical scheme of man's 
> origin, destiny, and evolution â a scheme preeminent above all else for its 
> rigorous adherence to justice. And, that we may broaden our criterion of 
> truth, our research extends to an enquiry into the nature of the less known 
> forces, cosmic and psychical. In one word, our whole aim and desire are to 
> help, in at least some degree, toward arriving at correct scientific views 
> upon the nature of man, which carry with them the means of reconstructing 
> for the present generation the deductive metaphysical or transcendental 
> philosophy which alone is the firm, unshakable foundation of every religious 
> philosophy. 
> ------------------------------------------ 
> 
> See: 
> 
> H.P.B. Speaks 
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/hpbspeaks.htm 
> 
> Daniel 
> Blavatsky Study Center / Blavatsky Archives 
> http://hpb.cc 
> 
> 
> 

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