Theos-Talk Archives (June 2011 Message tt00150)

Dear MKR

My views are:

H. P. Blavatsky wrote in Sectret Doctrine, Vol. II, p. 51:
"Now whether Asuramaya is to be considered a modern myth, a personage who flourished in the day of the Macedonian Greeks, or as that which he is claimed to be by the Occultists, in any case his calculations agree entirely with those of the Secret Records.
>From fragments of immensely old works attributed to the Atlantean astronomer, and found in Southern India, the calendar elsewhere men-

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* See "Lectures on the Indian Literature," p. 253, by Prof. A. Weber; in Trubner's Asiatic Series. 

â Even the Maya Indians of Guatemala had their Zodiac from untold antiquity. And "primitive man acted in the same manner independently of time or locality in every age," observes a French writer.

tioned was compiled by two very learned Brahmins* in 1884 and 1885. The work is proclaimed by the best Pundits as faultless â from the Brahmanical standpoint â and thus far relates to the chronology of the orthodox teachings. If we compare its statements with those made several years earlier in "Isis Unveiled," with the fragmentary teachings published by some Theosophists, and with the present data derived from the Secret Books of Occultism, the whole will be found to agree perfectly, save in some details which may not be explained; for secrets of higher Initiation â as unknown to the writer as they are to the reader â would have to be revealed, and that cannot be done. (But see "Chronology of the Brahmins" at the close of Stanza II.)
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* The "Tirukkanda Panchanga" for the Kali Yug 4986, by Chintamany Raghanaracharya, son of the famous Government astronomer of Madras, and Tartakamala Venkata Krishna Rao."
http://www.phx-ult-lodge.org/SDVolume2.htm



The above works are in need to be put online.
I could not find them when I searched.

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Tamil calendar is here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamil_Calendar

>From the above we find........

******* Surya Siddhanta *******
"The Surya Siddhanta is a Siddhanta treatise of Indian astronomy whose authorship is disputed."
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"When computed, this astronomical time cycle would give the following results:

    The average length of the tropical year as 365.2421756 days, which is only 1.4 seconds shorter than the modern value of 365.2421904 days (J2000).

    The average length of the sidereal year, the actual length of the Earth's revolution around the Sun, as 365.2563627 days, which is virtually the same as the modern value of 365.25636305 days (J2000). This remained the most accurate estimate for the length of the sidereal year anywhere in the world for over a thousand years.

The actual astronomical value stated for the sidereal year however, is not as accurate. The length of the sidereal year is stated to be 365.258756 days, which is longer than the modern value by 3 minutes 27 seconds. This is due to the text using a different method for actual astronomical computation, rather than the Hindu cosmological time cycles copied from an earlier text, probably because the author didn't understand how to compute the complex time cycles. The author instead employed a mean motion for the Sun and a constant of precession inferior to that used in the Hindu cosmological time cycles."
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Online Editions
"    Ebenezer Burgess. "Translation of the Surya-Siddhanta, a text-book of Hindu Astronomy", Journal of the American Oriental Society 6 (1860): 141â498.
    Translation of the Surya-Siddhanta: A text-book of Hindu astronomy, with notes and an appendix by Ebenezer Burgess JSTOR
    Translation of the SÃrya-SiddhÃnta: A text-book of Hindu astronomy, with notes and an appendix by Ebenezer Burgess (1860)
    Surya Siddhanta. PDF scans of various (English and Sanskrit) editions, with and without Sansksrit commentaries. (English, Sanskrit)
    Surya-Siddhanta: A Text Book of Hindu Astronomy (1858) by Ebenezer Burgess Kessinger Publishing
    Surya-Siddhanta: A Text Book of Hindu Astronomy by Ebenezer Burgess Phanindralal Gangooly
    Translation of the Surya Siddhanta into English, by BhÄskarÄcÄrya, Bapu Deva Sastri, Lancelot Wilkinson, ISBN 3764813342, ISBN 9783764813345,
    Surya Siddhanta Sanskrit text in Devanagari."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surya_Siddhanta

See also
Planetary Diameters in the Surya-Siddhanta
"Abstract -This paper discusses a rule given in the Indian astronomical text
Surya-siddhanta for computing the angular diameters of the planets. By combining
these angular diameters with the circumferences of the planetary orbits
listed in this text, it is possible to compute the diameters of the planets.
When these computations are carried out, the results agree surprisingly well
with modern astronomical data. Several possible explanations for this are discussed,
and it is hypothesized that the angular diameter rule in the Surya-siddhanta
may be based on advanced astronomical knowledge that was developed
in ancient times but has now been largely forgotten."
http://www.scientificexploration.org/journal/jse_11_2_thompson.pdf

Surya-Siddhanta (translated 1861) - online --- there are other versions!!!
http://www.wilbourhall.org/pdfs/suryaEnglish.pdf

Also Surya-Siddhanta and a number of Sanskrit works as well:
http://www.wilbourhall.org/index.html#SS


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Ciphers and Civilizations by Blair Moffett
"The early Hindu thinkers visualized the passage of a race from its birth to its close as embracing four distinct phases or yugas, and they said that races overlapped each other in duration. According to their calculations, the world, in other words our present race, entered the fourth of its phases, which they term the Kali yuga or Iron age, in the year 3102 BC. This event coincided with the death of Krishna, whom they describe as an avatara or incarnation of a lofty divine-spiritual being or messiah. His departure from the earth is said to have ushered in new and different conditions affecting our race. 

Modern students of the ancient Mayan numerical glyphs have found that the dating of major series of events noted on Mayan stelae invariably give such reckonings in terms of the time elapsed since a date known as 4 Ahau 8 Cumhu. They know that for the Maya chroniclers this date represented a commencement point in time-reckoning of such awesome magnitude that it was central to all else in subsequent Maya history; but they don't know what it meant or why it was so important to the latter. 

These students differ among themselves as to what the exact year 4 Ahau 8 Cumhu signified because of persisting uncertainties of numerical glyph interpretation, but they all agree that it occurred in the fourth millennium BC. That year has been variously given as 3135, 3113, 3373, and 3632 BC. At present the year 3113 BC is considered the most reliable of these. Remember that the specialists may yet be somewhat off in having settled upon this last date as the year in which that still mysterious event occurred which represented such an all-embracing starting point for later Maya time-reckoners. But, in view of the other similarities, its use by the latter as a date of the highest religious importance to their race, as well as its close coincidence with 3102 BC, a date of tremendous spiritual significance to the Brahmans and other orthodox Hindus, is rather amazing."
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sunrise/22-72-3/my-moff4.htm

This was what I got from the Internet.
But, there must be a better version of Surya-Siddhanta and Asuramaya's teachings somewhere in India - in a particular library...or am I mistaken?





M. Sufilight

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MKR 
  To: theos-talk 
  Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:32 PM
  Subject: theos-talk The Hindu Calendar


    
  The Hindu Calendar

  To many in the West, the Hindu Calendar will be a shock in that they have
  been able to compute precisely the astronomical events and times for
  thousands of years past and future. I ran into an article from âThe
  Theosophyâ in a blog. I am sure many will find it fascinating reading.

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  http://camelotforum.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=49&id=50781&Itemid=164>

  MKR

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