Theos-Talk Archives (May 2011 Message tt00127)

How I wish the book is more easily and widely available so that anyone who
is interested can read and come to their own conclusions. The book is pricey
at $95 and most ordinary theosophists cannot afford it. Everyone will
benefit when a free pdf copy is available.

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Govert Schuller <schuller@l9g9lA4lwYowGaB4984z7zzP60qdBQkgpnYxkybTGyFbVUg2gBu2dAwQnvuOLCqEVtOQ2VnGbMgvcNanDg.yahoo.invalid>wrote:

>
>
> Dear Joaquim,
>
> Thanks for sharing that chapter from the "Judge Case" on the wills of HPB.
>
> After reading it a few times I have to conclude that Daniel Caldwell's and
> Brett Forray's conclusions about the book "The Judge Case" are at least
> valid and applicable to this chapter on HPB's wills.
>
> Daniel concluded:
>
> "As I have read and carefully studied the narratives written by Pelletier
> in this book I have come to the conclusion that Pelletier employs (as much
> as Paul Johnson ever did) speculative possibilities with little or no
> documentation whatsoever."
>
> As one progresses trough the chapter the insertions of one 'speculative
> possibility' after another become quite disconcerting.
>
> Mr. Forray observed that Pelletier's rendering of the story is heavily
> skewered in favor of Judge, the protagonist who he wants to exonerate, and
> that he excludes other points of view. Many others, in this case Besant and
> Olcott, are depicted as immoral schemers.
>
> It looks like that The Judge Case reads more like a piece of advocacy than
> non-partisan historical research.
>
> Best
>
> Govert
>
> Sources:
> The JUDGE CASE by Ernest E. Pelletier in 5 Parts. Reviewed by Daniel H.
> Caldwell
>
> http://blavatskyarchives.com/pelletier_judge_case.htm
>
> Brett Forray's review of Pelletier's "The Judge Case" on the Theosophical
> History website.
>
> http://www.theohistory.org/Judge_Case_Review-XI-2.pdf
>
> Pelletier's response can be found here:
>
> http://www.theosophycanada.com/fohat_AddressCriticsTJC.htm
>
> My evaluation of that response is here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/56122
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jdmsoares
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 4:27 AM
> Subject: Re: theos-talk Interview With Ernest Pelletier
>
> Dear friends,
>
> While we don't have "The Judge Case" accessible online for
> everyone, we have published a chapter of the work of Ernest Pellitier.
>
> The chapter is entitled "The Wills of Helena P. Blavatsky".
>
> Here is an excerpt:
>
> 00000000000000000000000
>
> Shortly after reviewing The Secret Doctrine Annie Besant joined the
> Theosophical Society on March 10th, 1889. Besant had made a name for
> herself as one of England's finest orators and her abilities were needed
> by the growing Society. Besant showed great promise as a student of
> Theosophy and was soon sitting at H.P.B.'s side acknowledging her as
> her new guru. She was quickly brought in as a pledged member of the
> Esoteric Section. Just one month before her death H.P.B. appointed
> Besant (April 1st, 1891) as the Chief Secretary of the Inner Group of
> the Esoteric Section and Recorder of the Teachings,[1] and arranged for
> her to go to America to meet William Q. Judge and deliver Blavatsky's
> message to the American Convention held April 26th - 27th, 1891, as her
> special delegate. At the time Besant accepted that Judge was an
> Occultist, a view she later discounted. On May 8th Blavatsky died in
> London while Besant was on her way back from America.
>
> Besant had sailed for England on May 6th and, upon receiving word of
> Blavatsky's death, Judge followed on May 13th, 1891. Olcott would not
> sail from India until June 15th. Evidentiary facts have been gathered
> and are presented here for consideration regarding that period between
> Blavatsky's death on May 8th and the time of Judge's arrival in London
> on May 21st, 1891.
>
> Blavatsky executed her first Will before she left India in early 1885.
> According to Olcott she drew up a Will on January 31st, 1885. Olcott
> stated:
>
> "The witnesses were P. Sreenivasa Row, E.H. Morgan, T. Subba Rao,
> and C. Ramiah. It contains a clause to the effect that she wishes her
> ashes to be buried within the compound of the Headquarters at Adyar; and
> another request that annually, on the anniversary of her death, some of
> her friends should assemble here and read a chapter of the Light of Asia
> and one of Bhagavad GÃtÃ." [2]
>
> This is the Will and Testament which is being kept at Adyar to this day,
> and considered Blavatsky's official Will. But it was not the Last
> Will and Testament she executed.
>
> (.)
>
> 000000000000000000000000
>
> The complete chapter can be read at
> http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/02/wills-of-helena-p-blavatsky.h\
>  <http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/02/wills-of-helena-p-blavatsky.h>tml
> <http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/02/wills-of-helena-p-blavatsky.\
>  <http://www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2010/02/wills-of-helena-p-blavatsky.>html> .
>
> Best regards, Joaquim
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
> >
> > I just visited the interview with Pelletier, many have heard of his
> > voluminous work 'The Judge Case.' Not only is it very voluminous and
> > contains a lot of material, it is also pricey. Thus very few have seen
> the
> > book and not many average theosophists can afford to buy it. The net
> result
> > is the very purpose of publication is defeated. Most theosophists do
> want to
> > read first hand material and come to their own conclusions. We are yet
> to
> > see a digital copy of the book which will make it easily accessible to
> > members world-wide almost instantaneously.
> >
> > It looks like the decision makers who who come up with pricing of
> > theosophical publications seem to be totally blind to the need to make
> > theosophical material easily accessible to middle class theosophists
> most of
> > whom work full time and live on a month to month budget and cannot
> afford
> > pricey books.
> >
> > Other leaders and authors in theosophical circles also are not
> sensitive to
> > the price issue. This may be because most of them may have received a
> > complimentary copy or may be the books are paid for by the
> organizations
> > they are part of.
> >
> > Until the publications are converted to electronic format and made
> available
> > for free or for a $1, we cannot expect a good circulation.
> >
> > Let us all pray that those in charge of deciding on the pricing, soon
> wake
> > up to reality of the Internet world and digital publication.
> >
> > MKR
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 7:00 PM, theos-talk-owner@yahoogroups.com
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > (note prior message was truncated. now checking on group's
> > > settings...weird) admin
> > > ===================================
> > > Dear friends,
> > >
> > > We can see that the world scenario of the theosophical movement is
> > > slowly changing.
> > >
> > > Old lies are being debunked, step by step. Some masks are falling.
> The
> > > defense of truth is gaining strength. The true history of the
> movement
> > > starts to being known by an increasing number of students.
> > >
> > > Many have contributed so far to the revitalization process of the
> > > movement as a whole. One of those devoted students is Ernest
> Pelletier,
> > > author of the important book "The Judge Case".
> > >
> > >
> > > We have just published in our websites a recent interview with this
> > > lifelong worker for the Cause.
> > >
> > > The text is entitled:
> > >
> > > Ernest PelletierÃÂs Viewpoint
> > >
> > > A 2011 Dialogue On the Karma and
> > >
> > > Dharma of the Theosophical Movement
> > >
> > > The direct links are:
> > > www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2011/05/ernest-pelletiers-viewpoint.html
> and
> > > www.theosophyonline.com/ler.php?id=237
> > >
> > > Best regards, Joaquim
> > >
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> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "jdmsoares" jdmsoares@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We have just published in our websites a recent interview with
> this
> > > > lifelong worker for the Cause.
> > > >
> > > > The text is entitled:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ernest PelletierÃÂs Viewpoint
> > > >
> > > > A 2011 Dialogue On the Karma and
> > > >
> > > > Dharma of the Theosophical Movement
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The direct links are:
> > > >
> www.esoteric-philosophy.com/2011/05/ernest-pelletiers-viewpoint.html and
> > > www.theosophyonline.com/ler.php?id=237
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards, Joaquim
> > > >
> > > >
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