Theos-Talk Archives (February 2011 Message tt00114)

Thanks for the research and posting the info.

HPB would have had no problem in traveling in Northern India since there are
quite a few native Indians with very light skin and in Indian attire no one
will doubt she was a foreigner.

I was also stuck by her comment on doctor's certificate and how people will
accuse that it was bought. In the 2008 election similar comments were made
even after there were certificates from three doctors from two continents.
That is the way how world reacts when they do not want to believe.

MKR

On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 2:20 AM, M. Sufilight
<global-theosophy@LAvkeGQSrfBS7Zg4Si20kt0yrLqlATs3f78lenHiw7vvWvOrNSFZghU0sF2jtB0lusMhaY_s6b9abXpGhAm2NrjwCHI.yahoo.invalid>wrote:

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> Dear friends
>
> The following might help a bit more...
>
> H. P. Blavatsky wrote to Sinnett who was preparing his book about her:
> "I saw Master in my visions ever since my childhood. In the year of the
> first Nepaul Embassy (when?) saw and recognised him. Saw him twice. Once he
> came out of the crowd, then He ordered me to meet Him in Hyde Park. I
> cannot, I must not speak of this. I would not publish it for the"
> "world. See the harm the Occult World has done to me with all your kind,
> good intention. Had you not named my relatives, my inner life, my visit to
> Tibet, no one would have believed me more of a fraud than they do now. So
> you see. Let us leave my poor aunts and my relatives names out of the book,
> I implore you. Enough dirt accumulated on one of the family, do let us not
> drag holy names and names I respect into the book and thus sentence them
> beforehand to mangling.
>
> 3. Went to India in 1856 -- just because I was longing for Master.
> Travelled from place to place, never said I was Russian, people taking me
> for what I liked. Met Kulwein and his friend at Lahore somewhere. Were I to
> describe my visit to India only in that year that would make a whole book,
> but how can I NOW say the truth. Suppose I were to tell that I was in manâs
> clothes (for I was very thin then) which is solemn truth, what would people
> say? So I was in Egypt with the old Countess who liked to see me dressed as
> a man student, âgentleman studentâ she said. Now you understand my
> difficulties? That which would pass with any other as eccentricity, oddity,
> would serve now only to incriminate me in the eyes of the world. Went with
> Dutch vessel because there was no other, I think. Master ordered [me] to go
> to Java for a certain business. There were two whom I suspected always of
> being chelas there. I saw one of them in 1869 at the Mahatmaâs house, and
> recognised him, but he denied.
> 4. âThe incident of the adoption of the child!â I better be hung than
> mention it. Do you know if even withholding names what it would lead to? To
> a hurricane of dirt thrown at me. When I told you that even my own father
> suspected me, and had it not been for the doctorâs certificate would have
> never forgiven me, perhaps. After, he pitied and loved that poor cripple
> child. On reading this book Home, the medium, would be the first one to
> gather the remnant of his strength and denounce me, giving out names and
> things and what not. Well my dear Mr. Sinnett if you would ruin me (though
> it is hardly possible now) we shall mention this âincident.â Do not mention
> any, this is my advice and prayer. I have done too much toward proving and
> swearing it was mineâand have overdone the thing. The doctorâs certificate
> will go for nothing. People will say we bought or bribed the doctor thatâs
> all.
>
> 5. Yes, returned to relations in Jan. 1860.
>
> 6. Yes, about â62 went with my sister to Tiflis, left it about â64 and went
> to Servia, travelled about in Karpat all as I explain in my story about the
> Double. The Hospodar was killed in the beginning of 1868 I think (see
> Encylopaedia), when I was in Florence after Mentana and on my way to India
> with Master from Constantinople."
> (H.P.Blavatsky's Letters to A.P. Sinnett, p. 151)
>
> It seems that at least a part of Blavatsky's training occurred outside of
> Tibet!
>
> M. Sufilight
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: MKR
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: theos-talk Theosophical Classics: Re: Update on Secret
> Doctrine Commentaries
>
> HPB traveled in the United States dressed like a male and I am sure it
> worked when she visited Tibet as well.
>
> On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 7:33 AM, M. Sufilight
> <global-theosophy@LAvkeGQSrfBS7Zg4Si20kt0yrLqlATs3f78lenHiw7vvWvOrNSFZghU0sF2jtB0lusMhaY_s6b9abXpGhAm2NrjwCHI.yahoo.invalid>wrote:
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> > Thanks.
> > I had not read that one by Arthur Lillie.
> >
> > But I do find Arthur Lillie to be more or less ignorant, although he
> > touches some very interesting historical events. His bewilderment about
> > Blavatsky entering Tibet in 1856 - can be cleared by the fact that she
> > passed as a male. She was very thin at that time, and with her looks and
> a
> > bit of magic she succeded. (smile.) I also think something similar is
> > written somewhere by her own hand.
> >
> > M. Sufilight
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Martin
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 11:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: theos-talk Theosophical Classics: Re: Update on Secret
> > Doctrine Commentaries
> >
> > Lol, I just found out Annie Wood Besant is family as well to my family
> (as
> > is
> > Blavatsky), my niece Nathaly Wood, named after the famous N.Wood, is
> > daughter of
> > a Scottish heir. The Wood family took its name in the 17th century after
> my
> > own
> > name 'Tak' which Anglified is Wood...
> > Another thing to read is a maybe unknown writter Arthur Lillie, who wrote
> a
> >
> > interesting book on Blavatsky...found in the digital archives...
> >
> >
> http://ia700401.us.archive.org/16/items/madameblavatsky00unkngoog/madameblavatsky00unkngoog.pdf
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: MKR <mkr777@7pDKjp89t0IKMW3FwmR3JWuAcxJXDzVogAbE9q5lM6UpPTcdVf0u6EoFUeUpxm4jdK-XVvOe.yahoo.invalid>
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, February 21, 2011 11:27:22 PM
> > Subject: Re: theos-talk Theosophical Classics: Re: Update on Secret
> > Doctrine
> > Commentaries
> >
> > Also there is the possibility of some one having downloaded the entire
> > website. If so we can retrieve everything.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 2:29 PM, John W <JohnWW@iko62sab2-JWaH4Zk0YC40Qu3NxZitDXCumPfmcyRs_DcinkznCb6RHJSnnbvHmVC8y00qEHKpE.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
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> > >
> > > Can you please tell us what were the titles that were on that site as
> PDF
> > > or DJVU files? I would be able to search for downloads of them
> elsewhere
> > on
> > > the internet using Google. Also, what was the URL of the site that had
> > them?
> > > It may have been archived on http://www.archive.org , which also hosts
> > > many old out-of-copyright Theosophical books as PDFs or DJVUs.
> > >
> > > John W.
> > >
> > > --- On Mon, 21/2/11, Konstantin Zaitzev <kay_ziatz@f0u7P57SorlV37PGXYLVbQhX2a0h0XAp6QkABLiefDS4dfsCrAH5i9ikX73XuWjX112SqaE1JSoJY_eFfA.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
> > > From: Konstantin Zaitzev <kay_ziatz@f0u7P57SorlV37PGXYLVbQhX2a0h0XAp6QkABLiefDS4dfsCrAH5i9ikX73XuWjX112SqaE1JSoJY_eFfA.yahoo.invalid>
> > > Subject: theos-talk Theosophical Classics: Re: Update on Secret
> Doctrine
> > > Commentaries
> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Monday, 21, February, 2011, 8:02 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Theosophical Classics:
> > >
> > > > Someone had uploaded it some time ago and it was on the net for a
> > >
> > > > couple of days before it was taken down due to copyright violation.
> > >
> > > > I am sure many theosophists have downloaded it before it was taken
> > >
> > > > down and seems to be making rounds.
> > >
> > > Really it was online for several months or even more with many other
> > > copyrighted books but now the site is down.
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