Theos-Talk Archives (January 2011 Message tt00172)

Unfortunately, this group does not allow attachments (please change this, someone), and I do not have the original download links of three other (and better) dictionaries that I tried to attach. John W.

--- On Tue, 18/1/11, John W <JohnWW@BgcgvgqlA51Bk-Ouz7PDdBObT-hB7PASvhOvIbjW8wbxDA0XvJJxSkCRaRqGY0WoaBIny_v-EglS.yahoo.invalid> wrote:
From: John W <JohnWW@BgcgvgqlA51Bk-Ouz7PDdBObT-hB7PASvhOvIbjW8wbxDA0XvJJxSkCRaRqGY0WoaBIny_v-EglS.yahoo.invalid>
Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: FOHAT - Tibetan Dictionaries
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 18, January, 2011, 8:26 AM







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      I wonder how that would jibe with what Tibetan-English dictionaries actually say. Here are links for downloading some such dictionaries which found on the internet, although most of them are of phrases:



http://digilander.libero.it/bod_x/bod_x.pdf 442 Kb

http://www.tibetanlanguage.org/PDF/illuminator.pdf 160 Kb

http://himalaya.socanth.cam.ac.uk/collections/rarebooks/downloads/Tibetan_English_Dictionary.pdf 2.1 Mb

http://khup.com/download/17_keyword-tibetan-dictionary/bod-x.pdf 134 Kb



Also one attached.



John W.



--- On Tue, 18/1/11, MKR <mkr777@5AmgHGPQaCXyqRx1cyklZAWX9n76ukGxH6fFAPGfDqxf1HyAqX7erZ4oVJ1dYlBuGQOWfX9h3Q.yahoo.invalid> wrote:

From: MKR <mkr777@5AmgHGPQaCXyqRx1cyklZAWX9n76ukGxH6fFAPGfDqxf1HyAqX7erZ4oVJ1dYlBuGQOWfX9h3Q.yahoo.invalid>

Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: FOHAT

To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com

Date: Tuesday, 18, January, 2011, 4:42 AM



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Here is what I found in the SD Commentaries which was published last year



and I am hoping that the copyright holders will make it available for free



to theosophists soon. (Let us all pray, meditate or whatever???)



âMme. Blavatsky: You call it Sabbath, it is no fault of mine. Well, then, we



will go on. Moreover, you have to learn. the etymology of the word Fohat...



There is where it becomes difficult to understand. It is a Turanian compound



word. "Pho" is the word. "Pho" was once and is derived from the Sanskrit



"bhu," meaning existence, or rather the essence of existence. Now,



"Swayambhu" is Brahma and man at the same time. "Swayambhu" means



self-existence and self-existing; it means also Manvantara. It means many,



many things according to the sense in which you take it, and one must know



exactly whether the accent is on the "m" or on the "u", or where it is, for



therein lies the difference. Take "bhu." It means earth, our earth. Take



"Swayambhu." It means divine breath, self-existence, that which is



everlasting, the eternal breath. To this day in China, Buddha is called



"Pho."



A Lady: Is not the first meaning, breath?



Mme. Blavatsky: It is not. It is self-essence. It is very difficult for me



to translate it to you. Look at the Sanskrit dictionaries. They will give



you 100 etymologies, and they won't know what it is. It is existence, it is



self-evolution, it is earth, it is spirit, everything you like. It depends



on the accent, and how it is placed. That is a very difficult thing. In this



sense, certainly it comes from bhu and sva.â



MKR



On Sun, Jan 16, 2011 at 6:41 PM, email2cal <email2cal@HRRK5iDX-Nvj7FhRti3IBlXaHEWdZghtabd4pJ2A3ov9cSSmVzIajcpN9PbUDwPZ8bPwP9FcjERI1Q.yahoo.invalid> wrote:



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> >Dear friends My views are: A bit more info about FOHAT could be



> >important. I will quote from Blavatsky and insert a few comments



> >of my own based on my own...



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> Thanks for the quotes, they are helpful to understand what Fohat is. On the



> other hand, it's not that important to know the etymology of this term...



 



  




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