Theos-Talk Archives (December 2010 Message tt00063)

John,

It is the materialistic science that is becoming more and more discredit
and not theosophy or even the ideas of the Mahatma.

In the "Mahatma Letter" number 10 we can read:

We do not bow our heads in the dust before the mystery of mind -- for we
have solved it ages ago. Rejecting with contempt the theistic theory we
reject as much the automaton theory, teaching that states of
consciousness are produced by the marshalling of the molecules of the
brain; and we feel as little respect for that other hypothesis -- the
production of molecular motion by consciousness. Then what do we believe
in? Well, we believe in the much laughed at phlogiston (see article
"What is force and what is matter?" Theosophist, September), and in what
some natural philosophers would call nisus the incessant though
perfectly imperceptible (to the ordinary senses) motion or efforts one
body is making on another -- the pulsations of inert matter -- its life.

In "Letters of H.P.B. to A.P.Sinnett", p.8, HPB tell us that the
text "What is force and what is matter?" was written (or
dictated) by the Mahatma.

"Phlogiston", according to that text, it's somehow one
essence of matter and corresponds to a certain level of the Akasha. It
has also some relation with the "radiant matter" of Professor
Crookes.

In the same text, the Mahatma tell us:

Therefore do the Occultists maintain that the philosophical conception
of spirit, like the conception of matter, must rest on one and the same
basis of phenomena, adding that Force and Matter, Spirit and Matter, or
Deity and Nature, though they may be viewed as opposite poles in their
respective manifestations, yet are in essence and in truth but one, and
that life is present as much in a dead as in a living body, in the
organic as in the inorganic matter. This is why, while science is
searching still and may go on searching forever to solve the problem
"What is life?" the Occultist can afford to refuse taking the
trouble, since he claims, with as much good reason as any given to the
contrary, that Life, whether in its latent or dynamical form, is
everywhere. That it is as infinite and as indestructible as matter
itself, since neither can exist without the other, and that electricity
is the very essence and origin of?Life itself.

[The Theosophist, Vol. III, No. 12, September, 1882, pp. 319-324]

Best regards,

Joaquim



--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@... wrote:
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> Max,
> Great question lol! Another enigma of Theosophy strikes once again!
Bellinger it seems is being quotes or referenced in regards to "The
Phlogistan Theory" now diescredited by modern progress in Physics, but
once proposed that there was a invisible primal substance that remained
after being burnt to ash. I have read this idea in Hindu philosophical
theory. The mahatma letter gives reference to "The Theosophist" of
September 1881-1882 but I did not see any article by Bellinger cited in
there. This looks like another rabbit hole to jump into a black abyss,
for all we know bellinger is some one's middle name lol!
> John
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> Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 9:47:47 PM
> Subject: theos-talk Bellinger
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> Hello everyone,
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> K.H. writes in his famous letter # 10 (emphasis added):
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> "In other words we believe in MATTER alone, in matter as visible
nature
> and matter in its invisibility as the invisible omnipresent omnipotent
> Proteus with its unceasing motion which is its life, and which nature
> draws from herself since she is the great whole outside of which
nothing
> can exist. For as Bellinger truly asserts "motion is a manner of
> existence that flows necessarily out of the essence of matter; that
> matter moves by its own peculiar energies; that its motion is due to
the
> force which is inherent in itself; that the variety of motion and the
> phenomena that result proceed from the diversity of the properties of
> the qualities and of the combinations which are originally found in
the
> primitive matter" of which nature is the assemblage and of which your
> science knows less than one of our Tibetan Yak-drivers of Kant's
> metaphysics."
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> Does anyone know who this Bellinger was?
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> Thanks,
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> Max
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