Theos-Talk Archives (December 2010 Message tt00029)

>From some reliable sources I understand that the attention of theosophy
co/ISIS, the custodians of the commentaries has been drawn to the issue of
making an electronic copy available on Internet. Since the file was on
scribd.com, it is highly likely that copies are circulating privately. I am
sure the custodians realize there is nothing anyone can do to prevent copies
getting circulated privately and in time everyone interested will have a
copy. Since a formal organization is involved in the decision, it may take
some time and I expect a positive outcome.

MKR

On Fri, Dec 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM, John W <JohnWW@0FMpG0KLvhwXD3J3qpmdbN7AcUi8csHMCR48JcUtUJphD-32bPbckrf5IUtQvl8zi88-zLnzdyq74A.yahoo.invalid> wrote:

>
>
> Did anyone manage to download the PDF copy of "The Secret Doctrine
> Commentaries" by H P Blavatsky (1889), before scribd.com "pulled" it just
> on Isis' say-so? If so, can you please upload it to www.rapidshare.com ,
> and post the link here?
>
> Because the Commentaries were originally written in 1889, and H P Blavatsky
> has been dead since 1891, for  nearly 120 years, they are clearly no longer
> in copyright in ANY country of the world. Isis had NO RIGHT to demand that
> scribd.com delete it from their server! I shall be emailing scribd.comabout this lack of any copyright, and if possible to ask them to reinstate
> it.  Besides, Isis have a cheek, demanding about $100 for a print copy of
> it, which for an offset-reprinted book with no photographs or illustrations
> is disgustingly exorbitant. At that price, I doubt that even libraries would
> buy it.
>
> John W.
>
>
> --- On Thu, 2/12/10, Daniel <danielhcaldwell@zmlStKZHU_0pHPiNP-8q2kQLU570Y2lbOfNDFbWlx2Nngntl9k4ysC-VkSKbfNfYa5HYbt0GjcOHF0q2ApWKvA.yahoo.invalid<danielhcaldwell%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
> From: Daniel <danielhcaldwell@zmlStKZHU_0pHPiNP-8q2kQLU570Y2lbOfNDFbWlx2Nngntl9k4ysC-VkSKbfNfYa5HYbt0GjcOHF0q2ApWKvA.yahoo.invalid <danielhcaldwell%40yahoo.com>>
> Subject: theos-talk Re: The SECRET DOCTRINE COMMENTARIES Online
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, 2, December, 2010, 9:32 PM
>
>
>
>
> 15 years ago when I first discovered the SECRET DOCTRINE COMMENTARIES, they
> were in the keeping of the late Dallas Tenbroeck who was a member of the
> board of directors of the Theosophy Company and also acted as the keeper of
> the ULT/Theosophy Co. archives. He did not realize at first that much of
> this material had never been published. I encouraged him to have these
> unpublished commentaries published. Several years ago when I was last in
> contact with the President of the Theosophy Company, the plan was STILL to
> have the Theosophy Co. publish a reasonably priced edition. At that time the
> original notesbooks of these commentaries were in the safekeeping of the
> Theosophy Co. officials. I assume they still are the keepers of these
> notebooks.
>
> Interested readers and students should write directly to the Theosophy
> Company and to each member of the board of directors of the Theosophy
> Company and express their concerns and urge them to make these available to
> the public. I wrote to them in late August or September of this year and
> urged them to do so.
>
> Daniel
>
> http://blavatskyarchives.com
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Augoeides-222@... wrote:
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> >
>
> > mkr ,
>
> > OK, I will re-post .
>
> > John
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
>
> > From: " MKR " <mkr777@ gmail .com>
>
> > To: theos-talk@ yahoogroups .com
>
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 3:37:18 PM
>
> > Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: The SECRET DOCTRINE COMMENTARIES Online
>
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > I have also not seen any of the messages you are referring to.
>
> >
>
> > Would you mind reposting them to theos-talk with a copy to my email
> address
>
> > - mkr777_at_ gmail .com so that I can make sure they get posted.
>
> >
>
> > MKR
>
> >
>
> > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 5:05 PM, < Augoeides-222@... > wrote:
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> > >
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> > >
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> > > Daniel,
>
> > > Well I guess this might be why the three replies I posted to this Forum
>
>
> > > have not appeared so far, i was marking it up to holiday causes. I had
>
> > > applauded the Commentaries having been placed on-line as well as some
> other
>
> > > neat documents I noticed in addition what a crying shame we don't even
> get
>
> > > the courtesy of an off forum e-mail to explain what ever necessity was
>
> > > presented, just the black abyss of posts that go to oblivion without
> simple
>
> > > notice of the why.
>
> > >
>
> > > Because of the Commentary's I did considerable on-line searching and
> was
>
> > > given new knowledge which I also posted in one of the lost posts from
>
> > > November 23 to 27th
>
> > > to this Forum which I felt would benefit others. Included was my notice
>
>
> > > about the Adyar Library Bulletin's that I found on-line which could be
>
> > > purchased from 45 on up depending on the assessed contents by the
> sellers.
>
> > > My logic was perhaps if interested party's subscribed, they might then
> have
>
> > > access to the Archives of the Bulletin that goes way back and maybe
> some of
>
> > > those desired Documents that can never seem to be found would be listed
> and
>
> > > published in the Bulletin.
>
> > >
>
> > > I really wish a pleasant explanation would appear from mkr soon, and
> also
>
> > > the ISIS holders should tell all of us the true legal ground that
> exists in
>
> > > regards to the Documents they had on the website as I have no interest
>
> > > whatever to possess anything the violates a legal copyright held by
> anyone,
>
> > > and I am sure that is the view of most members of this Forum!
>
> > >
>
> > > Regards John
>
> > >
>
> > > -----
>
> > > From: "Daniel" < danielhcaldwell @yahoo.com>
>
> > > To: theos-talk@ yahoogroups .com
>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 1:01:13 PM
>
> > > Subject: theos-talk Re: The SECRET DOCTRINE COMMENTARIES Online
>
> > >
>
> > > Thanks for your remarks, MKR .
>
> > >
>
> > > The custodian of the original manuscript is The Theosophy Company [of
> the
>
> > > United Lodge of Theosophists] Los Angeles .
>
> > >
>
> > > You and other interested readers should write directly to the Theosophy
>
>
> > > Company and even to each individual member of the Board of directors
> for the
>
> > > Theosophy Company registering your complaint and concerns and
> encouraging
>
> > > them to do exactly what you have been advocating for some time.
>
> > >
>
> > > A few months ago I wrote to the Theosophy Company about this.
>
> > >
>
> > > It is also interesting to read what was recently posted at BLAVATSKY
> NEWS,
>
> > > according to what I have been told this is a blog maintained by a
> well-known
>
> > > Theosophical researcher.
>
> > >
>
> > > Here is the relevant posting:
>
> > > http :// blavatskynews . blogspot .com/2010/11/maya-of-imri. html
>
> > >
>
> > > I think one of the statements in this posting is made with you [ MKR ]
> in
>
> > > mind. I could be wrong but I don't think so.
>
> > >
>
> > > Daniel Caldwell
>
> > > http :// hpb .cc
>
> > >
>
> > > --- In theos-talk@ yahoogroups .com , MKR <mkr777@> wrote:
>
> > > >
>
> > > > It is highly likely that ISIS might have asked the site to remove the
>
>
> > > > material since it is copyrighted. This is how publishers respond to
>
> > > Internet
>
> > > > uploads of items such as music, videos, and movies. Recently US
>
> > > Governmental
>
> > > > Agencies have shut down several sites which facilitated distribution
> of
>
> > > > copyrighted materials and the Internet community is currently
> developing
>
> > > > techniques and infrastructure to defeat such action in the future.
>
> > > Googling
>
> > > > will provide a wealth of info on this.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > ISIS, quite possibly, want to continue to sell their very pricey book
> to
>
> > > > those who can afford them. Obviously, they seem not interested in
> making
>
> > > the
>
> > > > material reach as many theosophists as possible. HPB would be turning
> in
>
> > > her
>
> > > > grave in London seeing what Kali Yuga theosophists are doing to their
>
>
> > > > brethren.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > If the current custodians want the commentary material to be widely
>
> > > > distributed to theosophists, (who else has any interested in it), all
>
>
> > > they
>
> > > > have to do is to have the originals scanned and uploaded to Internet.
> Why
>
> > > it
>
> > > > has not been done so, I do not know.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Once scanned material is uploaded to Internet, many theosophists
> around
>
> > > the
>
> > > > world can collaboratively discuss and comment in Wiki type approach.
> We
>
> > > > should bear in mind there are very many knowledgeable theosophists
> around
>
> > >
>
> > > > the world who are more qualified to discuss the commentaries and it
> would
>
> > > be
>
> > > > a boon to theosophy world.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > Let us wait and see what is the next move of ISIS and the current
>
> > > custodians
>
> > > > of the originals.
>
> > > >
>
> > > > MKR
>
> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
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> > > >
>
> > > > On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 2:18 PM, Daniel < danielhcaldwell @...> wrote:
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> > > > > Today if you go to the link below, you will find this message:
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > "This content was removed at the request of ISIS."
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > So what happened? And what is the story behind this new
> development?
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > Daniel
>
> > > > > http :// hpb .cc
>
> > > > >
>
> > > > > --- In theos-talk@ yahoogroups .com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
>
>
> > > > > " jdmsoares " < jdmsoares @> wrote:
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > Dear friends,
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > Thanks to Theosophy Watch < http :// theosophywatch .com/ > now
> all
>
> > > the
>
> > > > > > students can have freely access to "THE SECRET DOCTRINE
> COMMENTARIES
>
> > > > > > ÃÂÃâÂ" The Unpublished 1889 Instructions".
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > They are published online at:
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > http :// www . scribd
>
> > > .com/doc/43546245/The-Secret-Doctrine-Commentaries
>
> > > > > > < http :// www . scribd
>
> > > .com/doc/43546245/The-Secret-Doctrine-Commentaries >
>
> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > >
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> > > > > > Best regards,
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > Joaquim
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > 0000000000000000000000
>
> > > > > >
>
> > > > > > Always visit www .esoteric-philosophy.com
>
> > > > > > < http :// www .esoteric-philosophy.com/ >
>
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