Theos-Talk Archives (September 2010 Message tt00019)

Dear Ms Wolff,

Thank you for your message. After consulting Mrs Radha Burnier, President of the Theosophical Society, who is also the Custodian of the TS Archives, I conducted a search in our collection for the item mentioned in your message.

I regret to inform you that the so called Albert Einstein's copy of H. P.
Blavatsky's 'The Secret Doctrine' is not held in our Archives.

I am taking the liberty of copying this message to Mr Joe Fulton, from the United States, who has approached us with the same request.

With best wishes and kind regards from Adyar,

Pedro Oliveira
TS Adyar Website Contact


> Dear colleagues,
> I am turning to you on the recommendation of Mr. C.A. Shinde,
> Librarian
at
> the Adyar Library & Research Centre.
> Not for the first time, recently we received the following message: "I
learned that, by a niece of Albert Einstein's, a copy of HP Blavatsky's
> "Secret Doctrine" was donated to the library at the headquarters of
> the
Theosophical Society in Adyar, India. It is a worn out and dog-eared copy
> of the first edition of the title, full of notes, drawings and
> comments
in
> the margins. According to the niece, Einstein is said to have kept it
> at
his bedside and to have recommended the book to his friends."
> You'll certainly understand that we are highly interested in any
available
> information about this book and the donor.
> To start with, we would be glad to receive an image of one of the
> pages
that contains notes and comments in Einstein's hand.
> It goes without saying that we are prepared to pay for the service.
Unfortunately, there are innumerable fake stories told about Einstein, and
> it is our concern to verify - or, if need be - to falsify them.
> Therefore, we rely on your help.
> Thanking you in advance I look forward to hearing from you soon. Best
regards from Jerusalem,
> Barbara Wolff
> Albert Einstein Archives
> Hebrew University of Jerusalem
> Jerusalem 91904 Israel 

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Joe" <jpfulton314@...> wrote:
>
> 
> Thanks much.  I just posted over at Theosophy.net.
> 
> Joe
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> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Augoeides-222@ wrote:
> >
> > Joe, 
> > 
> > Well as i said i was Googling for the Goddess "Chhinnamasta" on Google Images here: 
> > 
> > Chhinnamasta Google Search 
> > 
> > >>>http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1424&bih=703&q=Chhinnamasta&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g-s1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=<<< 
> > 
> > And found this in the Icon listings: 
> > 
> > Do you see?: My Years With Rabindranath Tagore 
> > 
> > >>>http://fleuve-souterrain.blogspot.com/2009/09/my-years-with-rabindranath-tagore.html<<< 
> > 
> > You need to scroll down a little to see the Photograph, 
> > Best regards, 
> > John 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Joe" <jpfulton314@> 
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2010 6:41:42 PM 
> > Subject: theos-talk Re: Einstein's Secret Doctrine 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Here's the latest...and thanks to everyone. BTW, it would be interesting to get either a pix or the URL of the pix with Einstein and Tagore. 
> > 
> > I just received an e-mail from Mr. Ramprakash in relation to the visit to Adyar by Mrs. Wadia: 
> > 
> > This comes from Mr. Anand Kundaji, a close associate of Mrs. Wadia: 
> > 
> > "I know nothing about this -- I doubt whether Madame could have been present at Adyar TS -- she never went there as far as I know" 
> > 
> > So, this appears to throw cold water on the story of Mrs. Wadia visiting Adyar. I wonder how she would have reacted had she witnessed the donation of an Einstein writing? Would the donation have become public quite rapidly or would it have been kept quiet? 
> > 
> > Joe 
> > 
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com , MKR <mkr777@> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > I hope someone enlightens us about the SD Einstein had. 
> > > 
> > > Mention of Poet Tagore bring up another theosophical connection. Indian 
> > > National Anthem was his creation and he wrote it when he was a visiting 
> > > professor at Besant Theosophical School at Madanapalli in South India. He 
> > > came to the school at the invitation of Cousins, the principal and a 
> > > theosophist from England, and himself an author and perhaps a poet too. By 
> > > the way, Madanapalli is also Jiddu Krishnamurti's birth place. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > MKR 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:56 AM, <Augoeides-222@> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Joe, 
> > > > Thanks for your post about the Einstein SD donation. I have also wondered 
> > > > about it but your the first to provide a critical fact about the tale. Like 
> > > > so many other things involving Madame Blavatsky's terms, names, etc., I have 
> > > > reached many a dead end when trying to source the actual name, place, item 
> > > > even when using the monster data searches we have available to us today. It 
> > > > is disheartening to say the least. It is a synchronicity today though as 
> > > > earlier I was actually looking at a Photograph of Einstein standing with the 
> > > > famous Poet Tagore as a result of a unrelated search about Neelkanta 
> > > > Mahadeva Temple and Chhinnamasta lol! Some times we get unusual contents we 
> > > > don't expect also. 
> > > > 
> > > > Nice to see you post again, wb, 
> > > > John 
> > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > From: "Joe" <jpfulton314@ <jpfulton314%40cox.net>> 
> > > > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com> 
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:38:28 PM 
> > > > Subject: theos-talk Einstein's Secret Doctrine 
> > > > 
> > > > Several days ago we started posting over on the Theosophical Network 
> > > > about Einstein's copy of the Secret Doctrine, which is a story related 
> > > > by Sylvia Cranston and Leon Maurer, among others. 
> > > > 
> > > > So far the story goes: 
> > > > 
> > > > Einstein's "niece" delivered the book to the Theosophical Library at 
> > > > Adyar, India. This incident is related in the Sylvia Cranston book, " 
> > > > HPB;: the extraordinary life and influence of Helena Blavatsky, founder 
> > > > of the modern theosophical movement, G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1993, 434; 
> > > > ibid, Ref: Notes, Part 7, Note 21". Also, according to Cranston, the 
> > > > volume was given to Eunice Layton in the "mid-1960's", while the 
> > > > Layton's lived at Adyar, and the donation was witnessed by the wife of 
> > > > BP Wadia. 
> > > > 
> > > > To date, we have found that Einstein did not have a niece, as his only 
> > > > sibling, a sister, Maja, died childless. Therefore, we have no 
> > > > certainty of who it was who delivered the book. 
> > > > 
> > > > Many people in the movement accept this story as fact. If it is 
> > > > factual, then we need to do what we can to have the volume digitized and 
> > > > made publicly available to all. Am I concerned about what Einstein 
> > > > wrote? No, not really. It could be as meaningless as a few scribbles, 
> > > > or it could provide new insights into the nature of the universe, and 
> > > > specifically for Theosophists, a new way of understanding the Secret 
> > > > Doctrine. 
> > > > 
> > > > If anyone has information that will help us track down the story behind 
> > > > Einstein's Secret Doctrine, please shoot me a message over at 
> > > > Theosophy.net. 
> > > > 
> > > > Also, please feel free to spread this message around the web to whomever 
> > > > may help or you feel may benefit. 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks much, 
> > > > 
> > > > Joe 
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