Theos-Talk Archives (August 2010 Message tt00263)

Sorry for the misunderstanding, Leon.  

Excellent, so we're pretty certain that the donor was Helen Dukas.  That makes the story even more interesting.  How hard would it be to find out whether or not Ms. Dukas ever traveled to India, either in that time-frame or at all?  That might be a worthy followup.

As it is, Michael Williams has verified the existence of the article by Mike Brown. A copy is in microfilm at the Ojai Public Library.  The article, "I Visited Professor Einstein" is in the Ojai Valley News, from September 28, 1983.  I've been looking for someone to go to the Ojai Library to have a copy of the article made for posting over at Theosophy.net. 

Joe

--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@...> wrote:
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> I never claimed that Mrs. Wadia said she visited Adyar.  It probably was one of the women with her (whose name I don't know) who told me the story. Although Mrs. Wadia started it.
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> Of course there is no way to verify any of this today, since the several ULT associates who were with me when I spoke with the British woman who had just lectured on reincarnation and was introduced to me as Mrs. Wadia, are either dead or long forgotten by me ? since I haven't visited that Lodge many times since then.  
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> However, the story I told on my web site*** is exactly what I experienced that day in 1975.  As I said, I don't remember if one of the similarly sari dressed woman in the party accompanying Mrs. Wadia told me she was at the Lodge in Adyar when the book was delivered, or it was Mrs. Wadia who told me. 
> ***http://leonmaurer.info/einstein.html
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> I also am sure now that the person who actually delivered the book was Einstein's longtime Secretary Helen Dukas (later his housekeeper after his Wife Elsa died)... Who apparently said she was Einstein's niece wherever she traveled after his death, to avoid any scandal... Since it was rumored that she was also Einstein's lover.  It's been recorded that Einstein made her the executor of his estate, and that she received all his personal possessions besides being willed much more money than the total given to all his family and relatives after he died.  Thus, the story that she was at Einstein's bedside when he died, and that she knew about the SD being on his desktop all the time she was with him during his tenure at Princeton, rings true. 
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> Is it a coincidence that my father was one of the New York Textile Industry executives who sponsored Einstein when he first entered the US as an immigrant, and set him up in his apartment at the Mews near Washington Square in Manhattan? Is it also a coincidence that I met Dr Einstein in my Uncle's house in Brooklyn, a wealthy Wall Street Broker (also a member of Einstein's sponsoring group) and that I was the 11 year old kid he explained his theory of relativity to, and later I read somewhere that he said, "No scientific theory is worth anything unless it can be explained to a 12 year old child".  Was it also a coincidence that one of the problems on a day long test I took when I was 18 that helped me win a finalist position in the Westinghouse Science Survey (Now Intel Science Talent Search) was;  Read the copy of the original theory of Special Relativity that Einstein published for his thesis in 1905, and answer a series of difficult questions about it, all within a half hour? Incidentally, I got an "A" on that problem. ;-)
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> Since most of the people who sponsored Einstein were also Masons, I would assume that Einstein might also have been one... And that it may have been his friend, Nobel Prize Winner Robert Millikan, whom he met in Berlin and corresponded with (also a known Mason and possibly a theosophist) who gave Einstein the original edition of the Secret Doctrine.
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> It's also interesting that when I explained my ABC theory of cosmogenesis to some 7th graders while their class was on a nature tour in Central Park some years ago, one little girl said, "that sounds just like string theory." ;-) 
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> Leon  Maurer
> ABC theory:
> http://knol.google.com/k/how-it-all-began#
> New published article:
> http://www.jcer.com/index.php/jcj/article/view/85 ? or online at:
> http://leonmaurer.tripod.com/
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> On Aug 29, 2010, at 8/29/109:41 PM, Joe wrote:
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> > Here's the latest...and thanks to everyone.  BTW, it would be interesting to get either a pix or the URL of the pix with Einstein and Tagore.
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> > I just received an e-mail from Mr. Ramprakash in relation to the visit to Adyar by Mrs. Wadia:
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> > This comes from Mr. Anand Kundaji, a close associate of Mrs. Wadia:
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> > "I know nothing about this --  I doubt whether Madame could have been present at Adyar TS -- she never went there as far as I know"
> > 
> > So, this appears to throw cold water on the story of Mrs. Wadia visiting Adyar.  I wonder how she would have reacted had she witnessed the donation of an Einstein writing?  Would the donation have become public quite rapidly or would it have been kept quiet?
> > 
> > Joe
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> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@> wrote:
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> >> I hope someone enlightens us about the SD Einstein had.
> >> 
> >> Mention of Poet Tagore bring up another theosophical connection. Indian
> >> National Anthem was his creation and he wrote it when he was a visiting
> >> professor at Besant Theosophical School at Madanapalli in South India. He
> >> came to the school at the invitation of Cousins, the principal and a
> >> theosophist from England, and himself an author and perhaps a poet too. By
> >> the way, Madanapalli is also Jiddu Krishnamurti's birth place.
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> >> MKR
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> >> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:56 AM, <Augoeides-222@> wrote:
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> >>> Joe,
> >>> Thanks for your post about the Einstein SD donation. I have also wondered
> >>> about it but your the first to provide a critical fact about the tale. Like
> >>> so many other things involving Madame Blavatsky's terms, names, etc., I have
> >>> reached many a dead end when trying to source the actual name, place, item
> >>> even when using the monster data searches we have available to us today. It
> >>> is disheartening to say the least. It is a synchronicity today though as
> >>> earlier I was actually looking at a Photograph of Einstein standing with the
> >>> famous Poet Tagore as a result of a unrelated search about Neelkanta
> >>> Mahadeva Temple and Chhinnamasta lol! Some times we get unusual contents we
> >>> don't expect also.
> >>> 
> >>> Nice to see you post again, wb,
> >>> John
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Joe" <jpfulton314@ <jpfulton314%40cox.net>>
> >>> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:38:28 PM
> >>> Subject: theos-talk Einstein's Secret Doctrine
> >>> 
> >>> Several days ago we started posting over on the Theosophical Network
> >>> about Einstein's copy of the Secret Doctrine, which is a story related
> >>> by Sylvia Cranston and Leon Maurer, among others.
> >>> 
> >>> So far the story goes:
> >>> 
> >>> Einstein's "niece" delivered the book to the Theosophical Library at
> >>> Adyar, India. This incident is related in the Sylvia Cranston book, "
> >>> HPB;: the extraordinary life and influence of Helena Blavatsky, founder
> >>> of the modern theosophical movement, G. P. Putnam's Sons, 1993, 434;
> >>> ibid, Ref: Notes, Part 7, Note 21". Also, according to Cranston, the
> >>> volume was given to Eunice Layton in the "mid-1960's", while the
> >>> Layton's lived at Adyar, and the donation was witnessed by the wife of
> >>> BP Wadia.
> >>> 
> >>> To date, we have found that Einstein did not have a niece, as his only
> >>> sibling, a sister, Maja, died childless. Therefore, we have no
> >>> certainty of who it was who delivered the book.
> >>> 
> >>> Many people in the movement accept this story as fact. If it is
> >>> factual, then we need to do what we can to have the volume digitized and
> >>> made publicly available to all. Am I concerned about what Einstein
> >>> wrote? No, not really. It could be as meaningless as a few scribbles,
> >>> or it could provide new insights into the nature of the universe, and
> >>> specifically for Theosophists, a new way of understanding the Secret
> >>> Doctrine.
> >>> 
> >>> If anyone has information that will help us track down the story behind
> >>> Einstein's Secret Doctrine, please shoot me a message over at
> >>> Theosophy.net.
> >>> 
> >>> Also, please feel free to spread this message around the web to whomever
> >>> may help or you feel may benefit.
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks much,
> >>> 
> >>> Joe
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