Theos-Talk Archives (August 2010 Message tt00260)

Indeed, theorizing ;-)





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From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@BAnkmo3Xsht78cfHq4ON5mq_1KKY6BbTqEuXZEODOigb5TRih-dvAC2Xlcv6RrXcT-c8tYT2lXAIt_lG.yahoo.invalid>
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Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 3:52:57 AM
Subject: Re: theos-talk The Ring Pass-not

  


As far as my understanding goes, the ring pass not, could be when manifestation 
is resolved back into its primary state of abstract 'potential' objectivity.  We 

can access only the effects of the manifestation (and usually only by theorising 

about it), we can never see the Manifestor, and what underlies the manifestation 

working as a trinity, i.e. the 1st logos, the 2nd logos and the 3rd logos.
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>For example, 3rd Logos is absolute wisdom, which mirrors itself in absolute 
>intelligence. Mind, which by a transcendental process, superior to and 
>incomprehensible by human cosciousness results in cosmic energy - Fohat.  
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>Manvantyaric impulse commences with the reawakening of universal mind 
>concurently with and parallel to the primary emergence of cosmic substance or 
>Fohat, Fohat, the cosmic substance is produced parallel with Cosmic Ideation or 

>Universal Mind.  Fohat is the space in between the ideas or thoughts of the 
>Creator - it is the empty blackboard ready for the forms.
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>Cass
>From: Martin <Mvandertak@L1qlGv54xeLJAUkmelyO5eKx4gBiAiYIY8xxXcbyoZrf0daJjwKuED3u6wwhH-U-I0QpC-KaD4ak1o_F.yahoo.invalid>
>To: asblondie50@OF9_p3fWGf7swLrxzt9K9geXTV5oS7dMae-LOaIghSz1T0utedtjZdARm4f2g6nT_TqVHS97-YPcNyMKchra.yahoo.invalid
>Sent: Sat, 28 August, 2010 9:34:51 PM
>Subject: theos-talk The Ring Pass-not
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>My comment in bold italic (I nicked this article from the Theosophical Pages, 
>which are unavailable to non members)
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>HPB in The Secret Doctrine introduces an expression, :Ring Pass-Not". She 
>gives a very short and cryptic explanation. She has not used the expression 
>again in the book. Others have done no better. I reproduce here a few of the 
>samples:-
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>HPB â The Secret Doctrine: TUP Online Edition, Vol.1 Page 31-
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>Astronomically, the "Ring PASS-NOT" that the Lipika trace around the Triangle, 
>the First One, the Cube, the Second One, and the Pentacle to circumscribe these 


>figures, is thus shown to contain the symbol of 31415 again, or the coefficient 


>constantly used in mathematical tables (the value of , pi), the geometrical 
>figures standing here for numerical figuresâ.. But the full Initiate knows that 


>the ring "Pass-Not" is neither a locality nor can it be measured by distance, 
>but that it exists in the absoluteness of infinity.
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>Dion Fortune: The Cosmic Doctrine- 
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>The secondary spin of the first circuit is the Ring- Pass-Not, and the circuit 
>of the second formation is that sphere which sets a bound to Chaos. On the 
>outer sphere there is a secondary derivation, and though a spinning circle of 
>motion, represents for that Cosmos, the prime stillness, - the immobility in 
>which it is rooted; - it is the thrust-block of the force of the Cosmos, that 
>which resists, which alone enables momentum to be achieved and you may call it 
>the Ring-Chaos the prime evil. It is evolved from the reaction of the prime 
>force in order to take its thrust. It spins at right angles to the prime spin. 
>It counteracts it. It was the attraction of the Ring-Chaos inducing a 
>secondary spin in the Ring-Cosmos which forms the Ring-Pass-Not. 
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>G. De Purucker: The Occult Glossary, TUP Online Edition-
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>A profoundly mystical and suggestive term signifying the circle or bounds or 
>frontiers within which is contained the consciousness of those who are still 
>under the sway of the delusion of separateness -- and this applies whether the 
>ring be large or small. It does not signify any one especial occasion or 
>condition, but is a general term applicable to any state in which an entity, 
>having reached a certain stage of evolutionary growth of the unfolding of 
>consciousness, finds itself unable to pass into a still higher state because of 


>some delusion under which the consciousness is laboring, be that delusion 
>mental or spiritual. There is consciously a ring-pass-not for every globe of 
>the planetary chain, a ring-pass-not for the planetary chain itself, a 
>ring-pass-not for the solar system, and so forth. It is the entities who labor 
>under the delusion who therefore actually create their own rings-pass-not, for 
>these are not actual entitative material frontiers, but boundaries of 
>consciousness. A ring-pass-not furthermore may perhaps be said with great truth 


>to be somewhat of the nature of a spiritual laya-center or point of 
>transmission between plane and plane of consciousness. The rings-pass-not as 
>above said, however, have to do with phases or states of consciousness only. 
>For instance, the ring-pass-not for the beasts is self-consciousness, i.e., the 


>beasts have not yet been enabled to develop forth their consciousness to the 
>point of self-consciousness or reflective consciousness except in minor degree. 


>A dog, for example, located in a room which it desires to leave, will run to a 
>door out of which it is accustomed to go and will sit there whining for the 
>door to be opened. Its consciousness recognizes the point of egress, but it has 


>not developed the self-conscious mental activity to open the door. A general 
>ring-pass-not for humanity is their inability to self-consciously participate 
>in spiritual self-consciousness.
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>Alice Bailey: The Treatise on Cosmic Fire -
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>There exists in the Sun, in the planet, in man, and in the atom, a central 
>point of heat, or ((if I might use so limiting and inappropriate a term) a 
>central cavern of fire, or nucleus of heat, and this central nucleus reaches 
>the bounds of its sphere of influence, its ring-pass-not by means of a 
>threefold channel.
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>Alice Bailey : Initiation, Human & Solar â 
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>Ring-pass-not This is at the circumference of the manifested solar system, and 
>is the periphery of the influence of the sun, both esoterically and 
>exoterically understood. The limit of the field of activity of the central life 


>force. 
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>Manly P Hall: Secret Teaching of All Ages -
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>â.and through this "Ring Pass Not" the Adamic man cannot break
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>Itsj bad, humansj alwaysj after ring passj not, itsj the presjcjiousj itsj mine, 
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>Masjter hasj promisjed Golem...yes Golem, I did promise and indeed humans 
>always want to go beyond and forget they have to understand first where they 
>are...they are in this reality, it has no use to go to the moon or any other 
>place before they have cosmogenisized human life on Earth. For that Respect is 
>the first step to take, Patience the next, Diplomacy third...these are the 3 
>Initiations* for a Human to found a base for the 8th fold Path, the Buddha 
>taught. However as you may have guessed beyond the 8th fold Path Real Life 
>starts and to experience Real Life, one has to become a Buddha first and since 
>one cannot become a Buddha, one has to understand a Buddha becomes you, when 
>you have started to live from the foundation I described before. It doesn't 
>have any use therefore to know about 'Rings pass-not' if you have not put 
>yourself beyond the 3rd Initiation...
>HPB was a 3rd degree Initiate and she mentioned this Ring pass-not briefly to 
>fit in her Secret Doctrine, however as she also noted in her Magnus Opus, her 
>Books were only for the few and indeed it has no use to know anything beyond 
>her books as long as people haven't been tested yet by the Eyes of the Dweller 
>on the Treshold...
>* the Initiation system is according the 'White Brotherhood', HPB was a member 
>of as were her mentors Koot Hoomi and Morya... 
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>More here:
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>http://worldoftak.ning.com/forum/topics/the-ring-passnot
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