Theos-Talk Archives (August 2010 Message tt00028)

Morten, 
Sorry about the bad link, I see what happened, I had three links for Juan Moritz and sent the wrong one. here is the correct link: 

The Gold of the Gods- 01 Juan moritz Ecuador Tunnels 

>>>http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/arqueologia/gold_gods/gold_gods01.htm<<< 

John 

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Dear John 

My views are: 

Thank you for the info. 
The first link seems dead. 

I would count on that when Blavatsky says Arica, it is at Arica or nearby and not at another place. 

-------- 
About UFO's. 
We know that Blavatsky mentioned them. So in her time any talk about them was allright. Today, it is a no-no in various theosophical circles to even think about the issue, despite it was allright in the past. It is almost like promoting a Christian doctrine of not prying into the mysteries of God, or it seems to be a Mind Control technique bordeirng to the old doctrine on not talking about the Masters in the TS. 

I ask: 
Have you or anyone else more info about the Dr. Ruth Reyna's documents on Vimanas, which is named on the Internet, or is it just a hoax? 
( http://www.hinduwisdom.info/Vimanas.htm - scroll down.) 

M. Sufilight 

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Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Tunnels of the Inca - Hundreds of Miles Long - Jul 18, 2010 

Morten, 
Thanks for the links once again. One thing I noticed is that in the Blavatsky article she pales the "tomb of the Inca's" near Arica. But in Harold T. wilkin's Mysteries of Ancient South America in the front Map showing the tunnel from Cusco to Lima and then southward to the Atacama Desert it shows the "tomb of the Inca" as beinglocated near the shore but further north at a place named Penao jusy north of the river Payquina andalso just north of Ilo (Ylo). Below, Wilkins diagrams a pyramid shaped hill and he has the "strange hieroglyph's" diagramed on it. (Google Earth doesn't recognize "Penao") The Tunnels of the Inca Wilkins names as Socobon del Inca. This map seems to show the tunnel beginning at Ollantaytombo fortressnear the base of the terraces there. Elswhere he also shows "Los Tres Picos" the three peaks sub labeled La Puerta Secreta del Socaban (The Secret Door of the Tunnels.) hmmm, wonders if the Atacama man Glyph on that mountainside is saying something. If Blavatsky was at sea on a ship as her drawn map shows she may have mis-estimated the position of her ship ( she does show the Tomb of the Inca's but says it is near Arica and that is majorly different than the amp Wilkin's has in the book.) 

A few years ago Iread online website having to do with another enegmatic personage named "Juan Moritz" which was about the discovery of more tunnels down there, it has photo's, here is the link: 

Quest for the Ancient metal Library 

>>> http://www.dark-truth.org/okt302006-11-ancient-metal-library-peru-ecuador-mystery.html <<< 

In looking at the Figures on this website there is one that is face on labeled "clown" or "spaceman" strongly resembles "Bolon Yokte" the leader of the Seven Gods of the Mayan, it is Bolon (Spider- Mayan Pharmacology Encyclopedia - Smithsonian Museum) Yokte(sometimes called 9 legged God- eight plus it's stinger who is to make "Descent" on Dec. 21st, 2012, at least that is what the archeologist's think the partially destroyed Tortuguero Monument 6 stele is saying. The arm of the Experiencer had the Spider tattooed on it when he had lost time at age 16, later during his abduction phase one of them took him before dawn in his underwear and placed him on the "regenerative leg of the spider at Nasca. 

There are quite a few UFO events occuring at this period in China what the significance realy is is garbled by the Chinese Gov. but there are video's on Linda Moulton Howe's" Earthfiles" website. Also on Yahoo and Google Video's. 

>>>www.earthfiles.com<<< 

John 

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Sent: Sunday, August 1, 2010 10:42:10 AM 
Subject: Re: theos-talk Re: Tunnels of the Inca - Hundreds of Miles Long - Jul 18, 2010 

Dear friends 

My views are: 

Here are some more info. 

The below from the Theosophist claim that the map is at TS Adyar Archives - HQ. 
The map is presented in this number. Can we have it online? 
You can e-mail it attached as a JPG to me, and I will put it online. 

My mail is on my website at the bottom 
My website is: http://www.global-theosophy.net/ 

Theosophist Magazine May 1959-December 1959 
Af N. Sri RAM (page 92) 
Search "Inca" or "Treasure map" 
http://books.google.com 

Also info at BCW Vol. II, p. 339-343, - *p. 343. 
http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v2/y1880_019.htm 

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Also Ancient Subterraen Tunnels - by Glen W. Chapman, nov. 2003 
(About Blavatsky and others. And a description of some of the tunnels indside those, which are said to be blocked or sealed). 
"There are indeed tunnels that one may enter at Sacsayhuaman and nearby Qenqo. If one 
walks behind the Inca's stone seat inside the fortress toward Qenqo, one will find all sorts 
of bizarre stone cuttings, upside-down staircases, and seemingly sensless rock carving on 
a grandscale. There are also tunnel entrances in this area. Various rock-cut tunnels lead 
down into the earth and at least one goes to another part of the mountain area of Qenqo. 
All of these tunnels are blocked at some point and this area of Sacsayhuaman is still 
being excavated by Peruvian archaeologists." 

In his book "Jungle Paths and Inca Ruins", Dr.William Montgomery McGovern states: 

"Near this fortress [Sacsayhuaman] are several strange caverns reaching far into the earth. 
Here altars to the Gods of the Deep were carved out of the living rock, and the many 
bones scattered about tell of the sacrifices which were offered up here. The end of one of 
these caverns, Chincana, has never been found. It is supposed to communicate by a long 
underground passage with the Temple of the Sun in the heart of Cuzco. In this cavern is 
supposed, and with good reason, to be hidden a large part of the golden treasure of the 
Inca Emperors which was stored away lest it fall into the hands of the Spaniards. But the 
cavern is so huge, so complicated, and its passages are so manifold, that its secret has 
never been discovered." 
....... 
"One man, indeed, is said to have found his way underground to the Sun Temple, and 
when he emerged, to have had two golden bars in his hand. But his mind had been 
affected by days of blind wandering in the subterranean caves, and he died almost 
immediately afterwards. Since that time many have gone into the cavern-never to return 
again. Only a month or two before my arrival the disappearance of three prominent 
people in this Inca cave caused the Prefect of the Province of Cuzco to wall in the mouth 
of the cavern, so that the secret and the treasures of the Incas seem likely to remain 
forever undiscovered." 
....... 
"More recently, the big Lima earthquake of 1972 brought to light a tunnel system beneath 
that coastal city. During salvage operations, workers found long passages no one had ever 
known existed. The following systematic examination of Lima's foundations led to the 
astonishing discovery that large parts of the city were undercut by tunnels, all leading 
into the mountains. But their terminal points could no longer be ascertained because they 
had collapsed during the course of the centuries. " 
http://www.scribd.com/doc/35014994/Ancient-Subterranean-Tunnels-of-South-America 
(Yet, be careful, there might be mistakes in the content.) 

Just throw it out at http://theosnet.ning.com 

--- 
A sidenote: 
I just heard on the lines, that the UFO-man "Disclosure Greer" held a gatheirng in the outside at a UFO-meeting in France quite recently, at that several of the members of the outside gathering saw UFO's or at least what they thought were UFO's. 

M. Sufilight 

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I think the map was published, and if I am not wrong on the Collected Writings 
or other book. I recall seeing it in 1992-3. But I don't remember in which 
book. 

Erica 

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18, 2010 

Theo, 
Yes, my hope is someone at Adyar with access can ocate it and post the 
compiltions online perhaps on Daniels website might be a great place for it. I 
eagerly await the event. We are near a important time the time of Bolon Yokte 
nears. 

John 
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18, 2010 

I have not heard any info about the material in the Adyar archives. May be 
someone else has more info. The best possibility looks to be for someone 
interested in it need to personally visit archives and see if the material 
can be located. Let us wait and see what other feedback we get from others 
on the list. 

MKR 

On Sun, Aug 1, 2010 at 9:36 AM, paijmanstheo < th.paijmans@wlu0ftJ9dMV3RWLB4xSsLJRCjQSnVDmMkrdlf8zDbdTC-lrgfpSuFAIXjvaksdS52KraabA6NlSh.yahoo.invalid > wrote: 

> 
> 
> Everybody interested in these supposed tunnels always stops at Blavatsky as 
> a very early source. So, that mythical map of hers resides, or so we read in 
> the article, "in the Adyar, India, archives of the Theosophical Society." 
> 
> Has anyone actually ever seen this map? Has the TS in Adyar released 
> facsimilà copies of it, are there recent scholarly studies of it, or is that 
> alleged map slowly mouldering away amidst heat, humidity and insects? Does 
> it exist at all? 
> 
> Has anyone actually ever visited these archives at Adyar? What is in there? 
> Do catalogues exist of their holdings? Are they accessible? 
> 
> Who can answer these questions? 
> 
> regards, 
> 
> Theo 
> 
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, "M. 
> Sufilight" <global-theosophy@...> wrote: 
> > 
> > Dear friends 
> > 
> > Mu views are: 
> > 
> > Here is maybe something interesting for you...I just came across it and 
> felt that I would like to share it here. 
> > 
> > 
> > Tunnels of the Inca: As Tall as a Man, and Hundreds of Miles Long 
> > "When Mme. Blavatsky, famous 19th century European "medium" visited Peru, 
> she viewed and concurred with the information regarding the markings on the 
> Ila monolith. She also asserted that information regarding the entrances to 
> the tunnels had been graven in the walls of the "Sun Temple" (Qoricancha) at 
> Cuzco. It is reported that Mme. Blavatsky received a chart of the tunnels, 
> from an old Indian, when she visited Lima. This chart now reposes in the 
> Adyar, India, archives of the Theosophical Society. 
> > 
> > In volume 1 of Isis Unveiled, pp. 595-98, HPB makes reference to such a 
> tunnel, and says: We have in our possession an accurate plan of the tunnel, 
> the sepulchre and the doors, given to us at the time by the old Peruvian, 
> and there does exist in the TS Archives at Adyar, a three page document 
> showing a number of coastal towns along what was then Bolivia and Peru, 
> which is reproduced in the Theosophical Publishing House edition of Isis 
> Unveiled and in vol. 2 of the Blavatsky Collected Writings series, pp. 
> 339-43, attached to her article "A Land of Mystery." 
> > http://blavatskynews.blogspot.com/ 
> > 
> > Tunnels of the Inca: As Tall as a Man, and Hundreds of Miles Long - Jul 
> 18, 2010 Brien Foerster 
> > 
> http://peru-travel.suite101.com/article.cfm/tunnels-of-the-inca-as-tall-as-a-man-and-hundreds-of-miles-long 
>g 
> 
> > 
> > The Old Lady is still kicking and alive...(smile.) 
> > 
> > 
> > M. Sufilight 
> > 
> > 
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