Theos-Talk Archives (March 2010 Message tt00084)

Here's a comment by a physicist relating to my ABC theory of cosmogenesis mind and consciousness?which I thought might be of interest.  Apparently, mainstream physics is getting closer and closer to the "new bio-holo-coenergetic physics" I have been teaching for the past 40 years.   

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> From: "yanniru" <yanniru@aim.com>
> Date: March 25, 2010 6:45:23 AM EDT
> To: MindBrain@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Mind and Brain] Consciousness, Physics, and the Holographic Paradigm
> Reply-To: MindBrain@yahoogroups.com
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> What Leon and perhaps Williams are talking about seems to be a point hologram of the universe. That is, the entire universe is mirrored holographically at every point in space. 
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> String physics has not derived that yet but string theorists are getting close in my opinion. BTW I am not a string physicist. I stopped at electromagnetics and actually worked on the engineering aspects of EM like propagation, scattering, adaptive optics and antennas. But I have been following the development of string theory since the 1980s and it seems to be going in the directions postulated by Williams and Maurer.
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> So back to the point hologram. This had been solved in string theory rigorously, without perturbation or renormalization, in two dimensional theory. I first heard about that solution from Brian Greene at a Northeastern U. conf. in 1989 when he was a post-doc at Harvard. The solution states that given a circular Planck-scale closed string of radius a, the entire universe outside the string x>a is mapped to its interior x'<a in every direction, in a x/a->a/x' transformation at every angle in the 2D plane. That is, x'=a^2/x.
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> I have always imagined that the same kind of solution would apply to three dimensional space. But it seems that the closest string physics has come is the Maldacena Holographic Conjecture that gauge physics (ie., EM and the weak and strong force) on a 4D surface holographically maps to gauge plus gravity physics on the 5D interior of the surface. It is my belief that such a surface at the Planck scale would map the exterior 5D space into its interior.
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> One of my conjectures, as presented in the Conjectured Multiverse String Theory Knol, is that the 6D Compact Manifold (ie., the Planck-scale condensate of the compactified extra dimensions of superstring theory) holographically maps the entire 6D Compact Manifold (CM) of the Universe into every point of the CM (actually every Planck-scale 3d volume in the CM) mirrored by 5D Planck-scale (spherical?) surfaces.
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> It seems that going up in dimensions makes the math easier. So perhaps some day a string theorist will extend Maldacena's conjecture to any larger number of dimensions and obtain a solution for the point hologram. It also seems that higher dimensional theory is required to map physics as well as space.
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> Anyway, that is how I think string theory will eventually support the point hologram concepts proposed by Maurer and now Williams.
> Richard
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> --- In MindBrain@yahoogroups.com, Leon Maurer <leonmaurer@...> wrote:
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>> Interesting how close William's cosmological holographic paradigm is (from a slightly different perspective) to my ABC model of cosmogenesis, mind and consciousness -- which is based on the same fundamental principles?that both conspicuousness and potential matter are two complementary aspects, one subjective and the other objective, of the fundamental primal or absolute space that underlies all phenomenal multidimensional fields and forms in the cosmos... With out physical world at its fourth lowest, fractally involved, frequency/energy phase order
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>> Since all cosmic information is stored in each zero-point spin momentum source of all radiant energy fields throughout total space?(analogous to the DNA information in each cell of every sentient being)?it is obvious that the apparent structures of all matter are holonomic in nature?i.e., as holograms within holograms, within holograms, ad infinitum... With the holographic image forms on any level of spacetime frequency phase order, being "solid" relative to each other.  
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>> Also, the laws of physics would be different on each level...  e.g.;  The equation for mass energy would vary between E=mc^2 on the physical/material plane, E=mc^4 on the next higher order astral plane, and E=mc^8 (and up to c^64, perhaps) on the highest order physical and cosmic mental and spiritual planes ("c" representing the maximum velocity of light particles on each spatial field frequency phase order level of total spacetime)
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>> To comprehend how the initial "spinergy" (spin momental G-force) generates the endless "string woven" fields of manifest energy, extending, as fractal involved harmonic fields, between near infinite to near zero frequency/energy, and how consciousness actually works and interrelates with mind, memory, brain, body, senses, etc.?see:

>> http://knol.google.com/k/how-it-all-began# or
>> http://dzyanmaster.wordpress.com (with questions and answers)
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>> Leon Maurer
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>> On Mar 22, 2010, at 3/22/1012:10 AM, Anna wrote:
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>>> Consciousness, Physics, and the Holographic Paradigm
>>> 
>>> Essays by A.T. Williams
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>>> Part I:  Sneaking Up On Einstein
>>> 
>>> The search for the fundamental constituents of matter continues,
>>> and the search for irreducible nonmaterial primordial energy has only just begun.
>>> - A.T. Williams
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>>> 
http://hermital.org/book/holopara1-3.htm
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>>> 
>>> Chapter 1
>>> 
>>> Section 3:  Fundamental Forces
>>> 
>>> According to the recently discovered first principle of physics, the universal principle of energy (TUPE), each macroscopic, microscopic, atomic, subatomic, nuclear, and subnuclear material object is a discrete, organized aggregation of fundamental, irreducible, conditionally relative nonmaterial primordial energy.
>>> 
>>> Holonomically reconstructed in the nonmaterial primordial energy domain (NED) as a sequential series of periodic holonomic image events, each emergent material object within the extradimensional material domain of our holographic universe is pervaded with and maintained by the synergistic activity of at least four nonmechanical, nonmaterial fundamental forces or interactions. The four presently known fundamental forces are electromagnetism, the strong nuclear force, the weak nuclear force, and gravitation.
>>> 
>>> From the extremely small subnuclear elementary particles with a net electric charge calledquarks to the cosmos itself, the massless, weightless, nonmaterial electromagnetic force is ubiquitous and limited only by the undefined boundary of our holonomic subluminal universe. From high-energy subnuclear particles to the cosmos itself, each emergent material object that possesses physically real mass, can be weighed, and occupies space is subject to the force of gravity. The strong force and the weak force, respectively, interact with nuclear and subnuclear constituents within the atomic nucleus.
>>> 
>>> If there is a lesson to be learned from the unprecedented exponential pace of 20th century scientific advancement, then perhaps the lesson is that humankind has taken only one more small step toward a comprehensive knowledge and scientific understanding of ultimate reality just-as-it-is. Thus, in addition to the four known forces, there may be other fundamental forces and interactions which are presently unknown, undefined, and undescribed by science.
>>> 
>>> The search for new pieces of the perpetual puzzle of Nature continues. Indeed, following the discovery of the universal principle of energy (TUPE) it seems that the nonmaterial energy of consciousness is not only another hidden piece of Nature's puzzle, it also seems that the time to reveal the extradimensional nonmaterial nature of conditionally relative consciousness has arrived.
>>> 
>>> The nonmaterial energy of consciousness:
>>> 
>>> In the 17th century CE, René Descartes (1596-1650) observed not only that the human body affects mind, but also that mind affects the human body. Based on these observations Descartes hypothesized that the tangible human body ? which includes the organic brain ? is extended in space, but intangible mind and thought are not. Descartes' near contemporary Baruch Spinoza (1632-1677) reasoned that tangible matter and intangible mind are simply two different aspects of the same underlying ground of being; therefore, the tangible human body, intangible mind, and human thoughts are extended in space.
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>>> If our multidimensional holonomic universe has separate nonmaterial and material domains as implied by the recently discovered universal principle of energy and 20th century quantum physics, then Spinoza had the better understanding of the classicalmind/body problem. The known physics of his day, however, were not sufficiently developed to explain the underlying physical principles.
>>> 
>>> Thus the intangible/tangible or, more precisely, the nonmaterial/material mind/body interactions described by Descartes and Spinoza remained essentially unresolved until Nobel laureateDennis Gabor's 1947 discovery and development of the static optical (electromagnetic) 3D hologram process eventually led this author to unexpected new insights and the discovery of the fundamental, irreducible, nonmaterial primordial energy foundation of omnipresent, pervasive, extradimensional nonmaterial/material physical reality just-as-it-is.
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>>> If the universal principle of energy (TUPE) ? the fundamental scientific principle which states that the unseen creates the seen ? is correctly applied, then it increases the complexity of the mind/body problem more than Descartes, Spinoza, or more recent researchers may have suspected.
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>>> Autonomous nonmaterial holonomic minds:
>>> 
>>> The extradimensional (nonmaterial and material) unification of the universal principle of energy (TUPE) and The Energetic Holographic Paradigm (TEHP, pronounced "teep") model of physical reality suggests the identity ? the irreducible sameness ? of uncreated, unconditioned primordial consciousness and the underlying ground of uncreated, unconditioned nonmaterial physical energy within which all nonmaterial and material phenomena manifest.
>>> 
>>> The extradimensional unification of TUPE and TEHP model implies that egoless, autonomous, conditionally relative nonmaterial consciousness (self-awareness; M^) emerges reciprocally within uncreated, unconditioned pure consciousness. Some egoless, autonomous, nonmaterial holonomic minds choose ideation as opposed to egolessness, thereby becoming egoistic, autonomous, nonmaterial holonomic minds (M+).
>>> 
>>> Moreover, within our complex open (nonconservative) nonmaterial/material holonomic universe each functional organic human brain creates a unique nonmaterial holonomic epiphenomenon that human beings experience as an exclusive, private human mind (M*). Thus, in a hierarchical sense, the organic human brain (source; parent) and its dependent nonmaterial holonomic mind (offspring; child) are 4D (3D + time) holograms within an extradimensional hologram (the holonomic universe) within an all-encompassing hologram (conditionally relative holonomic reality just-as-it-is).
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>>> In other words, each complex nonmaterial human mind/organic material brain in a living human being is a unique combination of energetic nonmaterial and material holonomic images that emerge reciprocally within our subluminal nonmaterial/material holonomic universe which itself emerges reciprocally (is holonomically reconstructed) on an undetermined transcendent, extradimensional level of existence within an all-inclusive, conditionally relative hologram that emerges reciprocally (is holonomically constructed) within the uncreated, unconditioned, irreducible nonmaterial ground of primordial being just-as-it-is.
>>> 
>>> Therefore, the unexpected discovery of the universal principle of energy (TUPE) ? the first principle of the irreducible nonmaterial primordial ground of being ? presents the fundamental scientific field of physics with the largest advancement in scope since the discovery of thermodynamics in the mid-19th century.
>>> 
>>> TUPE also presents the fundamental scientific field of objective (measurable) nonmaterial conscious energy with an even larger advancement in scope.
>>> 
>>> Inseparable agents of energy:
>>> 
>>> In principle reciprocally emergent, autonomous nonmaterial egoistic entities initiate and direct the extremely high frequency energy and information activities that construct, produce, and maintain each nonmaterial or material holographic image event on every conditionally relative holonomic level of existence that emerges reciprocally within the irreducible uncreated, unconditioned ground of nonmaterial primordial being.
>>> 
>>> The objective (measurable) nonmaterial energy of consciousness may be many orders of magnitude weaker than the approximately 6 × 10-39 force of gravity (gravitation), the weakest of the four classical fundamental forces (interactions) of discrete particulate matter/mass.
>>> 
>>> In contrast, uncreated, unconditioned nonmaterial consciousness is the inseparable coextensive agent of uncreated, unconditioned, irreducible nonmaterial primordial energy. Similarly, reciprocally emergent, autonomous nonmaterial self-awarenesses are the inseparable agents of fundamental, irreducible, conditionally relative nonmaterial primordial energy.
>>> 
>>> Therefore, it seems that the fundamental physics of the omnipresent, pervasive, extremely high frequency energy and information of the irreducible nonmaterial primordial energy domain (NED) and the fundamental physics of the comprehensive continuum (spectrum) of conditionally relative nonmaterial consciousness are key issues ? indeed, the key issues ? of 21st century science.
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>>> 
>>> Back to Chapter 1, Section 2:  A Novel Concept
>>> 
>>> Index:  Consciousness, Physics, and the Holographic Paradigm
>>> 
>>> Last Edit:  October 18, 2008.
>>> 
>>> Comments and suggestions welcome.
>>> 
>>> This paper is a work in progress.
>>> Please check for the latest update before quoting in other venues the concepts and hypotheses presented here.
>>> Thank you.
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