Theos-Talk Archives (March 2010 Message tt00040)

Vera, 
Thank you for your kind reply and assistance, I very much appreciate it. Thank you for responding I do hope you are recovering well. I have placed your provided links in my favorites. The content looks informative especially Ricardo Lindemann's resume. I was surprised to read he has translated I. K. Taimni's Yoga Sutra of Patanjali for Brazil. It is my favorite version. 

I don't quite duplicate what is meant by the acronym "ONG", is it a quasi-govermental intermediate organization that receives federal funds? A couple of years ago there was a Brazilian member of this Forum who held Governmental position in the Government there, he was Socialist commuted between Brazalia and his home on weekends. he advocated Humanist Philosophy. Maybe Carlos is reading and can explain what a ONG is lol. 

But conmingling Federal Funds with a Theosophical National Entity is most bizarre. 

Your a most kind person to reply thanks again. 

Regards, 
John 



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Vera Santos" <saffiebr@yahoo.com.br> 
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 6:35:42 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Res: Theos-World Re: [bad text] 






Hi, John 

I was away these last days because of a surgery I underwent last month. This is why only now I am responding to this email. 
If you are still interested, the website of Planetary Union is http://www.uniaoplanetaria.org.br/ 

The president you can find at http://www.uniaoplanetaria.org.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=236&Itemid=167&lang=br. 

Ricardo Lindemann you can find at http://www.uniaoplanetaria.org.br/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=241&Itemid=171&lang=br. He is publishing director of PU and bishop of LCC. 

Marcos Resende is not part of PU. Only Isis Resende, she is the Vice President, and I think she is his daughter . 

Planetary Union is an ONG. In Brazil, all ONG's receive a lot of money from the Federal Government. And they don't need to tell either the Government nor the society how, why, when and in/on what they are spending the money they receive. I didn't understand the creation of this ONG, for firstly it was created by the very "elite" of the TS of Brazil; and secondly, it has the same objective of working for humanity the TS has. Why a group of persons would propose themselves to do the same work at two different organizations? PU is linked to the TS of Brazil, but no Brazilian TS member was asked if he/she would agree with this linkage. I suspect many Brazilian TS members have never heard about UP. So far, as I don't live in Brasilia, I haven't seen any results from UP actions. So, I think their "humanity" is pretty much local. 

And just for you to know how their creativity works, UP motto is "there is no ideology superior to solidarity". I can't help laughing. 

regards 
Vera 

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De: " Augoeides-222@comcast.net " < Augoeides-222@comcast.net > 
Para: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
Enviadas: Domingo, 14 de Fevereiro de 2010 7:27:04 
Assunto: Re: Theos-World Re: [bad text] 


Chuck, 
I can't even find the planetary union or that resende guy on google images lol. But there are miullions of astronomical links lol. 
John 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Drpsionic@aol. com 
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 8:28:27 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Theos-World Re: [bad text] 

It would seem the Dark Forces do not have to do much these days. The TS 
can do it to itself. 

Chuck the Heretic 

www.charlescosimano .com 

In a message dated 2/14/2010 12:36:51 A.M. Central Standard Time, 
seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com writes: 

MKR, 

Just a little note for your comment about Dark Forces being the reason for 
all the commotion in the TS today....In the Valley of Fools a wise person 
is always considered to be a protagonist of the Dark Forces... 

How about talking about this organization called the Planetary Union which 
has taken over -- virtually -- the entire TS in Brazil? The TS in Brazil 
in fact functions only on paper, since it is manipulated largely by Ulisses 
de Resende, the Chairman or President of the Planetary Union. You might 
also want to consider the fact that Marcos de Resende is one of the many sons 
of Ulysses and Marcos is the current GS of the Brazilian Section. Have you 
ever visited the Planetary Union page? You will find that one of the 
Council members of the GC of the TS, Mr Ricardo Lindemann, also figures in the 
Committee of the PU....In fact, if you have been at the TS Conventions for 
the past three or four years, you would know that the Planetary Union have 
been misusing their privilege to live on Campus at Adyar during the 
Conventions in order for them to canvass for the PU and to recruit members of the TS 
for the PU. How would you then explain the Freedom of the Society 
resolution which is violated by the members of both the PU and the TS in 
Brazil, and since the President of the TS gives these members permission to 
stay on campus at Adyar, so the President of the TS, which is Mrs Radha 
Burnier, also violates that Resolution? 

It is not such an easy matter to think of where the future of the TS will 
lie, MKR. There are many points to be considered, the most important of 
which is the Spiritual or Esoteric aspect. 

And of course, now that you have given me the opportunity to say so, might 
I also add, it so happens that the Vice President, Mrs Linda Oliveira, is 
Australian and her husband, Mr Pedro Oliveira, is Brazilian. Can it be 
another ploy by the _current VP and her husband to retain power in the TS? 
After all, we do know -- despite all denials by Keith Fisher -- that Mrs Linda 
Oliveira does not mind serving a corrupt President, and bending a few rules 
in order to become VP of the TS. 

Fraternally 
Preethi 

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From: MKR <_ ( http://www.charlesc osimano.com/ ) _mkr777@gmail. mkr _ 
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Subject: Theos-World Background to âManorâ and future role of Rio de 
Janeiro 
To: "theos-talk" <_ ( http://www.charlesc osimano.com/ ) 
_theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com ) > 
Date: Thursday, 11 February, 2010, 7:31 PM 

Background to âManorâ and future role of Rio de Janeiro 

The âManorâ center in Sydney, Australia is the only theosophical center in 

the southern hemisphere of the world. According to published information, 

before Sydney was selected for the southern center, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 

was also considered and it was expected that Rio will play an important 
part 

in the future. More on this later. 

When Manor center was started, it was met with a lot of difficulty and 

opposition from the Brothers of Shadow because there was remaining of the 

old Lemurian influence to furnish suitable material for the unscrupulous. 
Of 

course trouble was created through members of the TS. 

It is obvious that we see continuous opposition from the dark forces since 

the founding of the TS. We have no reason to doubt they are not behind the 

events that TS has seen from the start of the nomination process for 

election of the International President to the current condition of 
cleavage 

among the leaders world-wide who are supposed to work for unity which is 
the 

keyword of real theosophists. 

Perhaps the Dugpas and the Lemurian influence have succeeded in joining 

hands and in one sweep were able to muster whole bunch of leaders to do 

their work; of course the leaders may not be conscious of their being used. 

The fact that Rio was also considered for the center before Sydney was 

selected, points to the important role it will play in the future. Recent 

increased theosophical activities in Brazil may be the beginning of the 

increased role Brazil is going to play. The opposition to the activities 

from some leaders from other countries sounds familiar to anyone who has 

followed the history of TS. At every step of any good that TS and its 

members try to do to help the humanity, you immediately see the opposition 

from the dark forces. Once we are conscious of this fact, it would be very 

easy for any theosophist to decide which side they should be_ on. 

I hope the above should give a better perspective of what is going on in 

Brazil and why all theosophist should support it. 

MKR 

PS: Some of the info above was from Joseph Ross' books on Krotona, which is 

a gold mine of info not available anywhere else. 

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