Re: Theos-World Re: [bad text]
Feb 14, 2010 09:19 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen
Come to think of it, I regret that I did not write J. Krishnamurti into it.
:-)
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From: Drpsionic@aol.com
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Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:25 PM
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I have every reason to think that we will all wake up on 1-1-2013 with a
very good laugh at those who thought that anything was going to happen in
2012.
Chuck the Heretic
_www.charlescosimano.com
In a message dated 2/13/2010 11:49:07 A.M. Central Standard Time,
global-theosophy@stofanet.dk writes:
I Agree.
- - -
To the prophetically interested, I will suggest to them, that they sit
down for a few minutes and really
do try to read the following number of the more wellknown predictions
through the latest centuries...
They have been taken mainly from
_ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/)
_http://www.bible.http://www.bhttp://www._ (http://www.bible.ca/pre-date-setters.htm)
I have not been able to confirm all of the mentioned predictions, but most
of them should be allright.
Read the below excerpts and have a good heartily laugh...:-)
1830
The Church of Christ. More recently, in the 1800's, Joseph Smith claimed
to have translated golden plates through divine inspiration from Jesus,
thereby producing the Book of Mormon. Members of the Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-Day Saints believe that their founder was a "latter-day" prophet.
1843-1844
William Miller was the founder of an end-times movement that was so
prominent it received its own name-- Millerism. From his studies of the Bible,
Miller determined that the second coming would happen sometime between
1843-1844. A spectacular meteor shower in 1833 gave the movement a good push
forward. The build up of anticipation continued until March 21, 1844, when
Miller's one year time table ran out. Some followers set another date of Oct
22, 1844. This too failed, collapsing the movement. One follower described
the da_ys after the failed predictions, "The world made merry over the old
Prophet's predicament. The taunts and jeers of the 'scoffers' were well-nigh
unbearable."
(Se also _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/)
_http://en.wikipediahttp://en.http://en.wikiphttp://en.wiht_
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Miller_(preacher)) )
1863
In 1863, BahÃ'u'llÃh, the founder of the BahÃ'Ã Faith, claimed the he is
the 'Promised One' of all Religions. And Baha'is see both the Jewish and
Christian scriptures, especially the books of Isaiah, Daniel, Micah, and
Revelation as containing many prophecies promising the coming of Baha'u'llah and
the Baha'i Faith. He is not acknowledged by Christians, Jews or Muslims as
the 'Promised One' as the significant events of the End Time did not occur
during his lifetime.
1910
The revisit of Haley's comet was, for many, an indication of the Lord's
second coming. The earth actually passed through the gaseous tail of the
comet. One enterprising man sold comet pills to people for protection against
the effects of the toxic gases.
1914
was one of the more important estimates of the start of the war of
Armageddon by the Jehovah's Witnesses (Watchtower Bible and Tract Society). They
computed 1914 from prophecy in the book of Daniel, Chapter 4. The writings
referred to "seven times". The WTS interpreted each "time" as equal to 360
days, giving a total of 2520 days. This was further interpreted as
representing 2520 years, measured from the starting date of 607 BCE. This gave 1914
as the target date. - Charles Russell, after being exposed to the teachings
of William Miller, founded his own organization - the Jehovah's Witnesses.
In 1914 Russell predicted the return of Jesus Christ.
1967
When the city of Jerusalem was reclaimed by the Jews in 1967, prophecy
watchers declared that the "Time of the Gentiles" had come to an end.
1970'ties
The late Moses David (formerly David Berg) was the founder of the
Christian religious group, The Children of God. He predicted that a comet would hit
the earth, probably in the mid 1970's and destroy all life in the United
States.
1975
The Jehovah's Witnesses were back at it in 1975. The failure of the
forecast did not affect the growth of the movement. The Watchtower magazine, a
major Witness periodical, has over 13 million subscribers.
1982
A group called the Tara Centers placed full-page advertisements in many
major newspapers for the weekend of April 24-25, 1982, announced: "The Christ
is Now Here!" and predicted that he was to make himself known "within the
next two months." After the date passed, they said that the delay was only
because the "consciousness of the human race was not quite right..." Boy,
all these years and we're still not ready.
1983
In 1983, Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh, Guru of the Rajneesh movement predicted
massive destruction on earth, including natural disasters and man-made
catastrophes. Floods larger than any since Noah, extreme earthquakes, very
destructive volcano eruptions, nuclear wars etc. will be experienced. Tokyo, New
York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Bombay will all disappear. - (The
happening would arrive between 1984-1999; M. Sufilight)
1986
Moses David of The Children of God faith group predicted that the Battle
of Armageddon would take place in 1986. Russia would defeat Israel and the
United States. A worldwide Communist dictatorship would be established. In
1993, Christ would return to earth.
1988
The book "88 Reasons Why the Rapture is in 1988" came out only a few
months before the event was to take place. What little time the book had, it
used effectively. By the time Sept 11-13 rolled around, whole churches were
caught up in the excitement the book generated. I personally had friends who
were measuring themselves for wings. In the dorm where we lived, my friends
were also openly confronting all of the unsaved. It became my job to
defuse to situations. In one case, an accosted sinner was contemplating
dispensary action against my now distant friends. Finally, the days of destiny
dawned and then set. No Jesus. The environment was not the same as Miller's
1844 failure. To my surprise, the taunting by the unsaved was very brief.
1989
After the passing of the deadline in 88 Reason's, the author, Edgar
Whisenaunt, came out with a new book called "89 Reasons why the Rapture is in
1989." This book sold only a fraction of his prior release. (And we wonder
why?)
1990'ties
In 1992, David Koresh of the Branch Davidian group in Waco Texas changed
the name of their commune from Mt. Carmel to Ranch Apocalypse, because of
his belief that the final all-encompassing battle of Armageddon mentioned in
the Bible would start at the Branch Davidian compound. They had calculated
that the end would occur in 1995. After a 51-day standoff, on 1993-APR-10,
76 members died as a result of a deliberately set fire.
1991
A local group in Australia predicted Jesus would return through the Sydney
Harbor at 9:00 am on 31st March, 1991.
1994
Harold Camping in his book "Are You Ready?" predicted the Lord's return in
Sept 1994. The book was full of methods that added up Bible numbers up to
1994 as the date of Christ's return.
1995
Armageddon Delayed! Jwâs
In early November 1995 Jehovah's Witnesses made newspaper headlines around
the world. This time it was not a record crowd at a stadium convention or
even a controversial blood transfusion case that attracted international
attention, but the postponement of the End. One headline read: "Armageddon
Not Coming," and the related article stated that Jehovah's Witnesses had
announced that "Armageddon [had] been delayed and [that] the end of the world
[was] no longer nigh." (Victoria Times-Colonist, Sunday 12 November 1995, p.
A2)
1996
California psychic Sheldon Nidle predicted the end would come when 16
million space ships converged upon the Earth on Dec. 17, 1996, along with a
host of angels. Nidle explained the passing of the date by claiming the angles
placed us in a holographic projection to preserve us and give us a second
chance.
1997
The 1997-JUL-29 issue of the Weekly World News reported that the biggest
end of the world scare since the Cuban missile crisis was circulating
through Washington. President Clinton called a secret meeting with leading Bible
scholars for the week of JUL-27. A confidential Pentagon memo sparked the
scare; it predicts a worldwide cataclysm of unprecedented proportions.
Earthquake activity is on a rise and will peak at year-end; the earth's crust
is shifting ominously.
1997-1999
Russian scientist Vladimir Sobolyovhas of the Rerikh Academy has analyzed
prophesies made by Russian saints, by Nostradamus etc. (6) He announced his
conclusions in1997-SEP: that the earth's axis will suddenly tilt about 30
degrees sometime during the next two years. This will submerge the
Scandinavian countries and Britain under water, in what is termed the Armageddon
Flood. Siberia will be spared. He expects that aliens will intervene and lead
the world into the fourth dimension. Right now, these aliens are on earth,
but in hiding. Sobolyovhas said: "If we completely believed in them, we
would get lazy. So they are clever. They stay hidden in the fourth dimension
and only show themselves from time to time.''
1998
The famous psychic Edgar Cayce predicted that a secret, underground
chamber would be discovered between the paws of the Great Sphinx. Inside, there
will be documents revealing the history of Atlantis. This revelation will
trigger the Second Coming of Christ. This prediction is rather interesting,
because two independent studies have revealed that there is in fact an
underground structure just where Cayce said it would be!
Edgar Casey predicted that the earth would have a new pole during the
winter of 1997-1998. Since the earth spins like a gyroscope, this would take an
enormous amount of energy to achieve. That amount of energy would cause a
massive disruption to the oceans and the earth's crust. That could, in
turn, cause very serious, worldwide tidal waves, earthquakes and volcanic
eruptions.
1999
TV newscaster-turned-TV newscaster-turned-<WBR>psychic Charles Criswell
King said in 1968 that the world as we know it will cease to exis
1999
Hon-Ming Chen has founded God's Salvation Church in Texas. The group
believes that a nuclear war will destroy parts of Earth in 1999. They have
identified a nine-year old boy as the "Jesus of the East", a reincarnation of
Jesus Christ. They believe that if they can link him up with the "Jesus of
the West" then 100 million lives will be spared. The second Jesus is supposed
to live in Vancouver BC, look like Abraham Lincoln, and have been born in
late 1969. Their search was unsuccessful.
2001
Charles Spiegel, a retired psychology professor, preaches from a small
town near San Diego CA that the ancient land of Atlantis will emerge from the
Caribbean circa 2001 CE. Shortly thereafter, 1000 extra-terrestrials from
"Myton" in 33 spaceships will land there and bring new knowledge to
humanity.
2011
Another prediction about oct. 2011 from the book: "We Are Almost There" by
Harold Camping and Brian Miller D.S.
Grand Rapids, MI. (God will be early out and strike before you know it! -
smile; M. Sufilight )
2012
Michael Drosnin, author of "The Bible Code," found a hidden message in the
Pentateuch (the first five books in the Bible) that predicts that a_ comet
will crash into the earth in 2012 and annihilate all life.
2012
New Age writers cite Mayan and Aztec calendars which predict the end of
the age on Dec 21, 2012.
And several New Age'ers have gone mad with similar predictions for the
same year.
I say: There will according to astronomers however be certain alignments
among the stars.
And much more of the same...
- - -
I will predict, that if the physical world will be destroyed, the
non-physical will not.
The Divine is within all humans. We just need to wake up from a silly
dream.
There is no need to go around seeking to scare each other with prophecies
of the most wildest kind.
And when you say: "I do not believe it", - I will say: "That is why you
fail!"
To the prophetic readers:
Do you still - believe - that major events of destruction will happen in
2012 compared with 2001 or 2011?
I wil say, that it is better to know about all the good that will happen.
M. Sufilight
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From: _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_
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Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [bad text]
They were not so much charlatans as simply, utterly, totally wrong.
Nothing is happening on earth that has not happened before or will not
happen
again.
Yes, the bean counters are to be discounted.
Chuck the Heretic
_www.charlescosiman_www.c
In a message dated 2/12/2010 5:54:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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(mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com) _ writes:
So the Mayans who are regarded as master astronomers are to be discounted
as charletans? I think or believe that the earth is going through a minor
cycle and hence the reason for so many climatic changes
Cass
>
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>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: [bad text]
>
>
>Because the 2012 stuff is nonsense and the TS does not want to look more
>silly than it already does.
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>_www.charlescosima_www.charles
>
>In a message dated 2/11/2010 6:21:20 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>silva_cass@silva_cass@<WBR>ya
>
>Those dugpas are doing their best to drown Sydney at the moment! Seeing
>there is so much talk around 2012 why has the TS remained silent?
>
>Cass
>
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>>
>>Does that mean that Theosophists are supposed to be heavily armed gangs
>>terrorizing the countryside? Have you looked at what Rio is like these
>days?
>>I mean I can really get into the heavily armed gang terrorizing the
>>countryside in the name of Theosophy but somehow I doubt that is what
>they had
>>in mind.
>>
>>Chuck the Heretic
>>
>>www.charlescosimawww.charlesco
>>
>>In a message dated 2/11/2010 8:02:42 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>>mkr777@gmail. com writes:
>>
>>Background to âManorâ and future role of Rio de Janeiro
>>
>>The âManorâ center in Sydney, Australia is the only theosophical center
>in
>>the southern hemisphere of the world. According to published information,
>>before Sydney was selected for the southern center, Rio de Janeiro,
Brazil
>>was also considered and it was expected that Rio will play an important
>>part
>>in the future. More on this later.
>>
>>When Manor center was started, it was met with a lot of difficulty and
>>opposition from the Brothers of Shadow because there was remaining of the
>>old Lemurian influence to furnish suitable material for the
unscrupulous.
>>Of
>>course trouble was created through members of the TS.
>>
>>It is obvious that we see continuous opposition from the dark forces
since
>>the founding of the TS. We have no reason to doubt they are not behind
the
>>events that TS has seen from the start of the nomination process for
>>election of the International President to the current condition of
>>cleavage
>>among the leaders world-wide who are supposed to work for unity which is
>>the
>>keyword of real theosophists.
>>
>>Perhaps the Dugpas and the Lemurian influence have succeeded in joining
>>hands and in one sweep were able to muster whole bunch of leaders to do
>>their work; of course the leaders may not be conscious of their being
>used.
>>
>>The fact that Rio was also considered for the center before Sydney was
>>selected, points to the important role it will play in the future. Recent
>>increased theosophical activities in Brazil may be the beginning of the
>>increased role Brazil is going to play. The opposition to the activities
>>from some leaders from other countries sounds familiar to anyone who has
>>followed the history of TS. At every step of any good that TS and its
>>members try to do to help the humanity, you immediately see the
opposition
>>from the dark forces. Once we are conscious of this fact, it would be
>ver_y
>>easy for any theosophist to decide which side they should be on.
>>
>>I hope the above should give a better perspective of what is going on in
>>Brazil and why all theosophist should support it.
>>
>>MKR
>>
>>PS: Some of the info above was from Joseph Ross' books on Krotona, which
>is
>>a gold mine of info not available anywhere else.
>>
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