Re: Theos-World The original rules of the Theosophical Society, 1883
Feb 13, 2010 08:50 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen
Emotional persons will always assume a whole lot and scare themselves into being angry and prejudiced.
A lot of our fellow human beings get scared about almost anything.
The truth will however always be ready to be listened to.
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From: Drpsionic@aol.com
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Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: Theos-World The original rules of the Theosophical Society, 1883
It is not a question of caring. It is a matter of being realistic. The
world is much changed since HPB, largely because of HPB which is why the
mere mention of her name will send certain groups into irrational rages.
Chuck the Heretic
www.charlescosimano.com
In a message dated 2/12/2010 11:08:10 A.M. Central Standard Time,
global-theosophy@stofanet.dk writes:
I have this view my dear Heretical (smile) friend:
Those who have an open and compassionate heart do care about the Present
Day theosophical groups and their offshoots and what they are doing right
now.
And that was what I was referring to.
But, yes when heretic's say that they do not care, and I and others will
encourage by saying: Do care. Do Mind.
The Law of Karmic Distribution is not Mocked, it never wavers and never
fails.
The Law of Karma cannot be written on a piece of paper by medicore humans
and called a Law.
The fact that people keep believing in this silly game does not make it a
valid theosophical activity.
The members of The Theosophical Society, the Alice A. Bailey groups, and
similar careless political promoters and political-masons aught reconsider
their activities and especially how they realate to political activity
within their r_anks, in their promoted books and websites, and among their
members and particularly their leaders. Else they will most certainly fail in
promoting the wisdom teachings of all ages.
M. Sufilight
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Subject: Re: Theos-World The original rules of the Theosophical Society,
1883
The answer would be simple but they would use a lot more words. "The
Colonel could make any rule he wanted, but he's dead now and we don't
care."
Chuck the Heretic
www.charlescosimanowww.charl
In a message dated 2/11/2010 1:05:26 P.M. Central Standard Time,
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Dear friends
My views are:
The below words might be worthwhile to consider...
Some of you already know about them, - yet others do not.
"In the Supplement to The Theosophist for July 1883 can be found a very
important pronouncement by Col. H. S. Olcott, the co-founder and President
of
the Theosophical Society, against mixing Theosophy and politics. This
statement, which H.P.B. endorsed, reads:
The tenacious observance by the Founders of our Society of the principle
of absolute neutrality, on its behalf, in all questions which lie outside
the limits of its declared "objects," ought to have obviated the necessity
to
say that there is a natural and perpetual divorce between Theosophy and
Politics. Upon a hundred platforms I have announced this fact, and every
other practicable way, public and private, it has been affirmed and
reiterated.
Before we came to India, the word Politics had never been pronounced in
connection with our names; for the idea was too absurd to be even
entertained, much less expressed. But in this country, affairs are in such
an
exceptional state, that every foreigner, of whatsoever nationality, comes
under
Police surveillance more or less; and it was natural that we should be
looked
after until the real purpose of our Society's movements had been
thoroughly
well shown by the developments of time. That end was reached in due
course; and in the year 1880, the Government of India, after an
examination of
our papers and other evidence, became convinced of our political
neutrality,
and issued all the necessary orders to relieve us from further annoying
surveillance. Since then, we have gone our ways without troubling
ourselves
more than any other law-abiding persons, about the existence of policemen
or
detective bureaux. I would not have reverted to so stale a topic if I had
not been forced to do so by recent events. I am informed that in Upper
India, some unwise members of the Society have been talking about the
political
questions of the hour, as though authorized to speak for our organization
itself, or at least to give to this or that view of current agitations the
imprimatur of its approval or disapproval. Again, it was but a fortnight
or
so ago that one of the most respectable and able of our Hindu fellows
strongly importuned me to allow the Theosophical Society's influence-such
as it
may be-to be thrown in favour of Bills to promote religious instruction
for
Hindu children, and other "non-political" measures. That our members, and
others whom it interests, may make no mistake as to the Society's attitude
as regards Politics, I take this occasion to say that our Rules, and
traditional policy alike, prohibit every officer and fellow of the
Society, AS
SUCH, to meddle with political questions in the slightest degree, and to
compromise the Society by saying that it has, AS SUCH, any opinion upon
those
or any oth_er questions. The Presidents of Branches, in all countries,
will
be good enough to read this pr_otest to their members, and in every
instance
when initiating a candidate to give him to understand-as I invariably
do-the fact of our corporate neutrality. So convinced am I that the
perpetuity
of our Society depends upon our keeping closely to our legitimate
province,
and leaving Politics "severely alone," I shall use the full power
permitted to me as Pres ident-Founder to suspend or expel every member, or
even
discipline or discharter any Branch which shall, by offending in this
respect,
imperil the work now so prosperously going on in various parts of the
world. "
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A question and a few words by M. Sufilight:
I find it to be a fact that the Theosophical Society today are muddling
its stance on politics and clearly seem to be deviating from the above
words
as it stands today.
It seems fair to ask the leaders of the Theosophical Society to come
forward and clearly explain why its relation to the activities performed
by
Annie Besant are of such a kind as they consider her a great theosophist
with
reagard to her political activities? - And I will allow myself to ask this
question on this forum. Will you the leaders or even members of the
Theosophical Society clearly explain us all why?
And later offshoots of the Theosophical Society could be asked the same
question on whether they have deviated from this original programe?
And will especially ask the so-called esoteric and openly masonic oriented
Alice A. Bailey groups about the same?
- - -
Are there no members of the Theosophical Society at this forum?
Perhaps some members at this forum will _ask some of_ the members of the
Theosophical Society about this central issue?
M. Sufilight
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