Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines!
Feb 10, 2010 08:22 AM
by Morten Nymann Olesen
I agree with you Clint.
A few views on your questions:
The core life-changing experience, if there was one, only happened through the use of continous spiritual efforts. Many failed (at least temporarily) on the path among the members of the Theosophical Society in the early days. And something like that is always bound to happen, - especially when one plays with fire. Yet, many succeded, and some more than others. Blavatsky said Damodar K. Mavalankar was one of the best examples of success, yet he also had his fall in the end according some theosophical letters.
The transmission occurs on the more physical level through various organisations, and not only those who use the name theosophical and similar. But none or very few of these are today operating in accordance with the original lines as they were given by the funders of the Theosophical Society. - H. P. Blavatsky and the founders original Programe suggested the members to study first and prepare themselves for esoteric knowledge or what in Buddhism sometimes is called oral or "oral" trasmissions, or chelaship. I will most certainly tell the readers as well as you Clint, that the Masters and their advanced Chelas always are near the planet and ready to help anyone along, when the time is ripe. But I do not forward this view as a dogma, but as a hypothesis to consider, while I claim that I know about this.
This teaching or experience is today being transmitted depending on time, place, people, teacher and circumstances. The Internet is helpful to some beginner-Seekers these days. To others it is not. It depends on various things.
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The original programe of Oct. 1875 said:
"That all the members of a society should acquire an equal degree of knowledge within the same period of time is not to be expected. Knowledge is always progressive, and proportional to natural capability and susceptibility to intellectual impression. Even the most intelligent and the most perseveringly studious must labor in order to obtain or attain. To all, however, are alike indispensable, rectitude of principle and conduct, and love of truth and wisdom. No student can win his diploma without undertaking a long course of study and proving a good character; and every handicraftsman has to serve his apprenticeship before he can be journeyman or master. So theosophy, which claims to teach the vital points of science and art, exacts from its adepts an assiduity of purpose, a catholicity of mind, an unselfish devotion, an unflinching courage and perseverance, and a purity of life and thought commensurate with the nature of their self-imposed task, before admitting them into the arcana of nature, and intrusting them with powers not shared by meaner souls."
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/gfkforum/ourdir.htm#Preamble%20of%20the%20T.S.
M. Sufilight
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From: wagnerian1
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines!
It is images, symbols, memories of experiences that one will take beyond, and certainly not the kind of knowledge imparted by acres/hectares of printed pages and hours of lectures!
It is these things that must be the primary transmission of Theosophical gnosis. If there aren't such things kept as a precious inheritance by the TS, then the whole thing is a social club, and from the looks of it, a failed one at that.
An Esoteric section is necessary if said knowledge is better imparted as a Mystery, not to exclude folks, but to make the transmission as literally impressive as it can be. Usually such a thing can be spoken of, but can never be fully known without passing through the procedure or initiation or whatever first. In other words, if you haven't been there, done that, and seen it, felt it, maybe even tasted and smelled it, you just won't know, even if you have the whole thing written out in front of you.
But again, what was the core, life-changing experience that HPB and her friends had, and how is that being transmitted to us today? Is it? If not, why not?
--Clint
--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@...> wrote:
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> Lol, again knowledge...why you need knowledge you will eventually forget when you die?
> The only thing one needs here in this Hell is how to survive and if possible help out a few others...
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> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@...>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tue, February 9, 2010 11:54:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Bring the Theosophical Society back to its original lines!
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> I hope you are not suggesting that new esoteric schools be formed? What knowledge is so esoteric that it can now only be shared by an elite group?
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