Theos-Talk Archives (February 2010 Message tt00052)

I am reminded of the dispute that arose after John Cooper died in the middle
of editing/compiling HPB letters. See the msg from Tillett linked below:

<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/theos-talk/message/37921>

MKR
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 10:14 AM, esapress@ymail.com <esapress@ymail.com>wrote:

>
>
> It happens. I know of one situation, in particular, wherein after death
> (which I wasn't but should've been informed about) that person supposedly
> had more than a baker's dozen of unpublished works a/b having a complete
> library of this person's text I of course wrote to request a titles list
> which to this day I've yet to receive.
>
> So, in fact, it's a real concern that those who've passed away aren't
> having their works deluted by persons interested in trying to profit via
> riding on the coattails of others by trying to attribute to them wacky and
> substandard works which they and their friends have actually
> created/produced a/b knowingly want to pass off as the deceased's.
>
> In this particular case those same individuals also attempted to steal the
> works of others (the deceased's friends) and to again pass that work off as
> the deceased's and thusly theirs. Just imagine when the deceased's friends
> began to catch wind of this/that can you imagine what that tasted like.
>
> Basically or in a nutshell, plundering and distorting one person's papers
> and archive wasn't enough, and so any materials that that person had
> received from a whole circle of scholarly friends was deemed by these
> individuals as potentially up for grabs - to plunder, misattribute, and
> distort.
>
>
> --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Augoeides-222@... wrote:
> >
> > Chuck,
> > I have the belief that they will be asphyxiated by mountains of mindless
> dribble.
> > John
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Drpsionic@...
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 3, 2010 8:04:51 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Covert Activities,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I think, realistically, the future of Theosophy will be something similar
>
> > to the fate of the Shakers. It will simply die out as an organized
> entity,
> > at least in the west, as we all get older and older and older...
> >
> > Chuck the Heretic
> >
> > www.charlescosimano.com
> >
> > In a message dated 2/3/2010 8:57:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> > mkr777@... writes:
> >
> > We all have seen some very fine Masons and theosophists who are
> altruistic
> > and best specimens of humanity. Such qualities have no correlation with
> the
> > erudition, position held, how high they are in Masonry or theosophical
> > organizations and any other attribute. We also have seen those in the
> other
> > extreme, that may shock us.
> >
> > We all wear a mask to present a favorable image in the world. However,
> when
> > people are put in highly stressful and unusual situations, usually
> created
> > by themselves, major breaks take place in the mask and people usually see
>
> > the real person and usually those undesirable characteristics hidden
> behind
> > the mask show up. When it happens, there is damage to the individual
> which
> > is very difficult to fix. Those who come thru the rents in the mask
> > smelling
> > like a rose, have nothing to worry.
> >
> > Let us see what is in store for TS in the near future. Are w_e seeing the
>
> > calm before the storm?
> >
> > MKR
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 8:12 PM,
> >
> > _ ( http://www.charlescosimano.com/ ) _esapress@... _
> > (mailto: esapress@... ) _ <_ ( http://www.charlescosimano.com/ )
> _esapress@... _
> > (mailto: esapress@... ) >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have been reading Theos-list posts of late, and sadly I do happen to
> > > agree and via my own personal experience can confirm that indeed it
> does
> > > look very much to me like Theosophy is being beseiged a/o as one might
> > say
> > > under attack. There are significant efforts being made to besmear
> > Theosophy
> > > and even perhaps derail it's original efforts and aims. Further, it
> does
> > > look to me like it is coming most specifically or commonly from
> > > organizations with a/o of Free Masonry. Myself knowing (and having
> known)
> > > many fine Masons I am trying my best to keep things in perspective and
> to
> > > not make sweeping a/o blanket statements about such Friends a/o
> > > Organizations. I feel this/that sort of vague outlook will not specify
> > the
> > > exacts that people will need/want to seek out for a more thorough
> > > understanding.
> > >
> > > As to why this should be, as yet I don't entirely know however I think
> > that
> > > it is partly a continuing and covert effort to privately, quietly, and
> > > unlawfully obtain; and, clearly, I too feel it is a very sad thing to
> > > see/know; and, of course, I'm still hoping that I'm wrong however as
> yet
> > it
> > > does not appear that I am.
> > >
> > > Sometimes, things that are important enough to stand your ground about
> > are
> > > also important enough for others to try and take if they can just
> manage
> > to
> > > figure out how. This/that issue (my best guess) however or ultimately
> is
> > in
> > > all likelyhood a ruse - it's simply an ego 'in' and efforting-means to
> > > create friction, harrassment and continuing pressure to ultimately
> > > discredit, dismantle a/o fracture the Org. - Obviously I too do happen
> to
> > > think these are serious matters to keep track of -
> > >
> > > At any rate I can definitely confirm that there are in deed and in fact
>
> > > specific people (caregivers of) working under illusion and covert who
> are
> > > trying to not only conflict (and confine) each and everything Theosophy
>
> > does
> > > (and much worse) but additionally they are trying to misrespresent some
>
> > > genuine Masons as having b_een other than. How/why it happened,
> > specifically,
> > > is it happening.
> > >
> > > First things first; it quite looks to me like it's all about
> > > harrassing/impeding harrassing/impeding<WBR>, discrediting and separat
> > > c/would pose real a/o strong opposition to such goings-ons.
> > >
> > > Terrie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> > _ ( http://www.charlescosimano.com/ )
> >
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