Theos-Talk Archives (February 2010 Message tt00045)

I think people overestimate the greed of the folks running the TS.  My  
feeling is that what they are doing is trying to justify the fact that they 
just  do not attract that many people any more.  The Three Objects are 
hopelessly  outdated, not in any sense of lacking validity, but in the sense that 
when  encountered people are more inclined to think, "Ok, that's nice.  Let's 
go  find something interesting."
 
And let us be honest, if someone were not already a Theosophist, reading  
some of the stuff on these lists would cure them of any inclination to be  
one.
 
We have gone from psuedo-sanskrit blather and people rehashing fights from  
over a hundred years ago to debating the vices real or illusory of the  
less-than-esteemed International President.
 
That is when someone isn't being paranoid about Jesuits...
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
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In a message dated 2/3/2010 10:41:52 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
mkr777@gmail.com writes:

 
 
 
You may be right. In the near term, many of those old folks dying may  be
bequeathing their estate to the TS so its coffers will swell so that  those
who control the treasury would have a good time spending the money  
believing
they are doing theosophical work.

I also have heard some  say that shrinking membership is indeed good for
leaders because it would  be easy to manage an organization with  smaller
membership.

MKR

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:04 PM,  <




_ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
(mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) _> wrote:

>
>
>  I think, realistically, the future of Theosophy will be something  
similar
> to the fate of the Shakers. It will simply die out as an  organized 
entity,
> at least in the west, as we all get older and older  and older...
>
> Chuck the Heretic
>
>  www.charlescosimano  
>
> In a message dated 2/3/2010  8:57:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> _ (http://www.charlescosimano.com/) _mkr777@gmail.mkr_ 
(mailto:mkr777@gmail.com)  <mkr777%40gmail.mkr>  writes:
>
> We all have seen some very fine Masons and  theosophists who are 
altruistic
> and best specimens of humanity. Such  qualities have no correlation with 
the
> erudition, position held, how  high they are in Masonry or theosophical
> organizations and any other  attribute. We also have seen those in the 
other
> extreme, that may  shock us.
>
> We all wear a mask to present a favorable image in  the world. However, 
when
> people are put in highly stressful and  unusual situations, usually 
created
> by themselves, major breaks take  place in the mask and people usually see
> the real person and usually  those undesirable characteristics hidden 
behind
> the mask show up. When  it happens, there is damage to the individual 
which
> is very difficult  to fix. Those who come thru the rents in the mask
> smelling
>  like a rose, have nothing to worry.
>
> Let us see what is in  store for TS in the near future. Are w_e seeing the
>
> calm  before the storm?
>
> MKR
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2_010 at  8:12 PM,
>
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>
>
> >
> >
> > Hi,
>  >
> > I have been reading Theos-list posts of late, and sadly I do  happen to
> > agree and via my own personal experience can confirm  that indeed it 
does
> > look very much to me like Theosophy is being  beseiged a/o as one might
> say
> > under attack. There are  significant efforts being made to besmear
> Theosophy
> > and  even perhaps derail it's original efforts and aims. Further, it 
does
>  > look to me like it is coming most specifically or commonly from
>  > organizations with a/o of Free Masonry. Myself knowing (and having  
known)
> > many fine Masons I am trying my best to keep things in  perspective and 
to
> > not make sweeping a/o blanket statements about  such Friends a/o
> > Organizations. I feel this/that sort of vague  outlook will not specify
> the
> > exacts that people will  need/want to seek out for a more thorough
> > understanding.
>  >
> > As to why this should be, as yet I don't entirely know  however I think
> that
> > it is partly a continuing and covert  effort to privately, quietly, and
> > unlawfully obtain; and,  clearly, I too feel it is a very sad thing to
> > see/know; and, of  course, I'm still hoping that I'm wrong however as 
yet
> it
> >  does not appear that I am.
> >
> > Sometimes, things that  are important enough to stand your ground about
> are
> > also  important enough for others to try and take if they can just 
manage
>  to
> > figure out how. This/that issue (my best guess) however or  ultimately 
is
> in
> > all likelyhood a ruse - it's simply an  ego 'in' and efforting-means to
> > create friction, harrassment and  continuing pressure to ultimately
> > discredit, dismantle a/o  fracture the Org. - Obviously I too do happen 
to
> > think these are  serious matters to keep track of -
> >
> > At any rate I can  definitely confirm that there are in deed and in fact
> > specific  people (caregivers of) working under illusion and covert who 
are
> >  trying to not only conflict (and confine) each and everything  
The_osophy
> does
> > (and much worse) but additionally they are  trying to misrespresent some
> > genuine Masons as having b_een other  than. How/why it happened,
> specifically,
> > is it  happening.
> >
> > First things first; it quite looks to me  like it's all about
> > harrassing/impeding  harrassing/impeding<WBR>, discrediting and separat
>
>  > c/would pose real a/o strong opposition to such goings-ons.
>  >
> > Terrie
> >
> >
>  >
>
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