Theos-Talk Archives (January 2010 Message tt00099)

Thanks for the info.

It was my understanding that one has to be a worker at Adyar to reside
there. You may be aware of the current rules.

mkr

On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:05 AM, preethi muthiah
<seeker_preethi@yahoo.com>wrote:

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>
> MKR,
>
> The rules are different for Indians and Foreigners...Foreigners do have to
> get their GS's approval to reside at Adyar.
>
> If you went back a few decades, you would see why this is followed. During
> John Coats' time, we sometimes had even hippies residing at Adyar. People
> would go to Adyar and smoke, drink and do many other things contrary to the
> spiritual atmosphere at Adyar.
>
> I was not there at that time, but these are things I have heard when I
> queried the President's unwillingness to allow some people -- members or
> otherwise -- to enter and reside on campus.
>
> So, when Mrs Burnier became President, she set out these rules as to what
> may be done to screen out any unwanted elements from entering and residing
> on campus at Adyar. I do appreciate that move, for I do believe -- as she
> does and many others too -- that the spiritual atmosphere in Adyar must be
> preserved...
>
> But when taken to the extreme, it means that Mrs Burnier then uses that
> very privilege she introduced to move out or prevent anyone from entering
> Adyar who is not good for her own ego...this rule has now taken away from
> the openness and regeneration that is needed for Adyar to survive as a
> spiritual centre.
>
> Fraternally
>
> Preethi
>
> --- On Tue, 26/1/10, MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
>
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 8:03 PM
>
>
>
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> When I was a member of the Indian Section and attended the conventions, the
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> process was very simple. If you are uptodate on your dues, then you are
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> allowed to register and attend. No one asked me about my allegiance to
>
> anyone nor was I asked about how many meetings I have attended.
>
> I doubt if the process has changed. With the large number of Indian members
>
> attending the convention, which is to be expected, anything else would be
>
> impractical.
>
> MKR
>
> On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 7:22 AM, preethi muthiah
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> <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com>wrote:
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> > Dear Katinka and Martin,
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> >
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> > That is precisely the point...what or who would Mrs Radha Burnier call a
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> > member in good standing? The way I have seen her function for 16 years as
>
> > resident-member- worker (strictly in that order), the ones she calls
> members
>
> > in good standing are those who are good for her ego, even if they are bad
>
> > for the Movement...she encourages inefficiency and gossip and slander,
> all
>
> > because the ones who do that also run to her calling her "Amma"...and run
>
> > behind her willing to do anything -- whether right or wrong -- to please
> and
>
> > satisfy her.
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> >
>
> > So the question I am asking is simply put this: Who or what is a good
>
> > member of the TS? And when onwards has the Cause become secondary to the
> ego
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> > of the functionary head of the TS?
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> >
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> > By the way, the rules of the TS define any member who has been paying
>
> > regular fees and attending TS meetings as a member in good standing...or
> at
>
> > least that is how I understand it...
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> >
>
> > And yes, Katinka, I have been at Adyar since 1994 till 2009, and am quite
>
> > aware of the politics and ego games that go on in allowing anyone at all
> to
>
> > reside at Adyar...
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> >
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> > Fraternally
>
> >
>
> > Preethi
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Sun, 24/1/10, Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo. com <Mvandertak%
> 40yahoo.com> >
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> > wrote:
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> >
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> > From: Martin <Mvandertak@yahoo. com <Mvandertak% 40yahoo.com> >
>
>
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
>
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
>
>
> > Date: Sunday, 24 January, 2010, 4:19 PM
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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> > Reminds me of an experience I had at "the Maitreya Institute" in
> Amsterdam:
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> >
>
> > The door was open so I went inside and had a look at all the statues and
>
> > paintings of "buddha's". Must have taken me half an hour ( I also filmed
>
> > some of the building inside ). Then a tibetan nun entered the meditation
>
> > room, where I was making pictures, I looked at her and felt her heart,
> which
>
> > truly was amazing. Then I observed her mind and there the trouble
> started.
>
> > She looked at me a said, we are all about compassion. At the same time a
>
> > monk appeared behind my back.who grabbed me around my body. I had another
>
> > look at the nun, who I saw looking at a picture of a dark buddha. Here is
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> > what I did...I hit the monk on his head and told him never to attack me
>
> > again and to the nun I said the same. But I didn't attack you, the nun
>
> > said...yes you did I said: with your mind...she apologized and started to
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> > cry...
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> >
>
> > The monk was ok, I didn't hit him too hard, and I went out of the
>
> > building...
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> >
>
> > ____________ _________ _________ __
>
> >
>
> > From: wagnerian1 <wagnerian1@ yahoo. com>
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> >
>
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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> >
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> >
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> > Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 7:34:20 AM
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> >
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> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
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> >
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> > Mmmmkay. Because you're doing all this world-shaking, complicated,
>
> > delicate, high-stakes decision making at a Theosophy Convention. Give me
> a
>
> > break.
>
> >
>
> > Do Theosophy in your local group, and in your daily life, and if somebody
>
> > wants to play secret club then by all means let them. What exactly are
> you
>
> > wanting to do at Convention that someone isn't letting you do? How are
> they
>
> > able to allow or disallow you do something? Are there armed guards
> involved?
>
> > Shouting matches? Cold shoulders? Theosophists, Buddhists, etc. are all
> good
>
> > at passive aggressive manipulation LOL Maybe there needs to be a good
>
> > shouting and cursing match to get everything out in the open so that
> Those
>
> > you serve can help Work on it too. Maybe words have lots of power, but
> the
>
> > power isn't always obvious from the superficial meaning.
>
> >
>
> > Who wants to stay at some boring ol' Headquarters anyway? Who wants to
>
> > burden the Society with your upkeep, just because you "pay dues"? Why
> does
>
> > the Society owe anyone room and board?
>
> >
>
> > I could go on and on.....
>
> >
>
> > --Clint
>
> >
>
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Martin <Mvandertak@ ...> wrote:
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > " I guess it's to ensure that 'members of good standing' only get to
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> > attend. Which Radha obviously does not think you are. "
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > Meaning she is discriminating on "caste" and in violence of the
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> > objectives of the TS...
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> > > ____________ _________ _________ __
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> >
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> > > From: Spirituality <mail@...>
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> >
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> > > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
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> >
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> >
>
> > > Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 4:10:15 PM
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> >
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> > > Subject: Re: Theos-World Adyar Convention Reporting
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > Hi Preethi,
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > Actually, it's not a given that every TS member can automatically stay
> at
>
> > the Adyar Centre. For international members there's a lot of bureaucratic
>
> > hassle to be able to stay there. People don't just have to prove they are
>
> > members, they have to have the explicit approval of their national
> section
>
> > to be able to stay over.
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > At least, that was the procedure for Dutch members when I went to Adyar
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> > ten years ago.
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > I guess it's to ensure that 'members of good standing' only get to
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> > attend. Which Radha obviously does not think you are.
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > Just because we pay a bit for its upkeep, does not mean it's a hotel at
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> > which every member automatically has admittance.
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> >
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> > >
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> >
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> > > Katinka Hesselink
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