Theos-Talk Archives (January 2010 Message tt00091)

Dear John and friends

My views are:

Thank you for providing some background info about various individuals, who are and has been involved with paraspychology.
The main question I asked remained unanswered, and an answer is of course not that easy to provide because it depends on a whole lot of things.

The reason i mentioned the report by Ingo Swann was to emphasise that the United Nations are involved in parapsychology with the implications this can and will have if the science get recognized just for instance like the fact that climate change is real or the science of psychology is recognized today. And also to point to the fact that Ingo Swann showed remarkable ESP cababilities and has through is activities been one of the major forces behind promoting more attention to subject in the latter part of the 20th century. 

I mentioned Dean Radin and IONS because this institute was mentioned in the bestseller "The Lost Symbol" by Dan Brown. I has already been bought by millions. False 33-degree freemasonry always attracts a major audience in these days. And Dean Radin is one of those who has done a lot to make the issue more publicly accepted. 

I mentioned IONS and Edgar Mitchell because UFO's aught not to be put into the closet and be forgotten about even if groups like TS Adyar should find the issue to be important to censure. Blavatsky mentioned in her TS Glossary that there were millions of Devas and aliens living in the clairvoyant dimensions.

To me the issue parapsychology and its paradigm are more important than what sect or doctrines the above persons promoted.
We aught of course to remember what doctrines they promoted, but the main issue is that if parapsychology is given official scientific recognition, the world will change for ever, and the dogmatic religions will have to adapt themselves to this or accept less or even no churchgoers. 

That is how I view it.


John wrote:
"The first thing that would need to happen in order to facilitate a more communicative open society is removal of senior media editors who make certain that nothing impermissible is allowed to be shown, spoken, covered, or reported that is on the black list of forbidden disclosures. "

I agree entirely on that this is at present one of the major obstacles. The question we have is who control the medias policies Western, Eastern etc.? - Money and narrowmindedness or the various heretical 33-degree Masons? And how to promote a change towards a more ethical and wise stance on parapsychology, if the Law of Karma is not opposing it?
And are there enough pressure on medias and scientists to take the issue more seriously in a official and of course scientific manner?

The the population and scientists in Arab countries are in fact many of them quite open towards parapsychological thinking or similar, even if the leaders keep this topic away from being emphasised.

Yet we also know, that the Internet, Youtube etc. etc. and other circumstances are slowly and effectfully changing this.



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Augoeides-222@comcast.net 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 8:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World Theosophy vs. The present political-religious stance on the Parapsychological Paradigm


    
  Morten , 
  Ingo Swann is a Scientologist who back in 1968 had just completed his Clearing Course. He became a Scientologist "Clear" and wore his Clear Bracelet when I first met him at the Celebrity Center. Later he had a most interesting career among things like "remote viewing" which was normal part of certain levels at Scientology before there ever was any goverment projects on it. 

  IONS was founded by Astronaut Edger Mitchell who also is aledged to have views about UFO's. 

  The President of Bell Labs was Gen Dornberger who was Von Braun's Boss at the Peenemunde Rocket Range where the V-2's were tested in the 3rd Reich. He was also brought to the USA with Von Braun. 

  The first thing that would need to happen in order to facilitate a more communicative open society is removal of senior media editors who make certain that nothing impermissible is allowed to be shown, spoken, covered, or reported that is on the black list of forbidden disclosures. The second thing that would need to happen is the removal of censorship of english language words that are forbidden to be spoken on media such as, socialist, marxist, communist here in the USA Media. They were banned when the Berlin Wall fell.Thirdly they would need to reverse the reversal that happened at the same time as to red and blue which were switched to confuse history in one generation. It is not just will or impulse that needs to change to transform the world but also the artifacts of suppression and oppression. Here is one excellent example : 

  90 Lashes and Prison ordered for young 13 year old girl because of school rule transgression: 

  >>>http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20100124/ML.Saudi.Girl.Lashing/<<< 

  Vile Dugpa Suppressive Degenerate Monsters!!! 

  John 

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 11:09:54 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
  Subject: Theos-World Theosophy vs. The present political-religious stance on the Parapsychological Paradigm 

  Dear friends 

  My views are: 

  I got the idea of starting a thread with the name: 
  "Theosophy vs. The present political-religious stance on the Parapsychological Paradigm" 

  A sweet member posted the following on another forum today. 
  I find it interesting that the United Nations are involved with such an activity, which clearly constitutes a direct possible shift in the human paradigm on this planet. 

  Here is the beginning part of the Report which already is more than ten years old..... 

  >>> WHICH 
  ACCOUNT FOR MANY SUBTLE PERCEPTIONS <<< 

  Ingo Swann (12 September 1996) 

  " [NOTE: The following is a reworked version of a paper I was invited to present on 21 March 1994 at the United Nations on behalf of the Society for Enlightenment and Transformation (SEAT) - UNSRC Enlightenment Society - P.O.Box 20, Room S-1552, Grand Central Station, New York, NY 10017] 

  SEAT is a reformulation and enlargement of the former unofficial UN Parapsychology Association. SEAT, however, has been granted Non-Governmental Organization (NGO) status and now occupies a meaningful place within the greater U. N. system. For further information regarding SEAT and its purposes, please be in touch with Mr. Mohammad A. Ramadan, Room S-1755, GCPO Box 20, NY, NY, 10017 (fax 212 - 963-4879). 

  The original title of the paper was YOUR SEVENTEEN SENSES - THE CRUMBLING MAINSTREAM RESISTANCE OF THE PARANORMAL AND NEW SCIENTIFIC CONFIRMATION REGARDING THE EXISTENCE OF CERTAIN PSI FACULTIES. 

  This original paper consisted of two major topics: 

  (1) the major characteristics of 20th century mainstream resistance to psi faculties 

  (2) recent scientific advances which now substantiate the existence of those faculties 

  For the purpose of this document I have separated the two topics and will integrate the substance of the first one in a forthcoming essay regarding the anti-psychic mindsets of the twentieth century. This present document focuses on new scientific confirmation regarding the existence of certain psi faculties. The elements presented in the 1994 paper are germane in today's larger picture of human consciousness development and have increased in meaning regarding the near future." 
  http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vision_remota/esp_visionremota_22.htm 

  - - - - - - - 
  In these days of Dan Brown books like "The Lost Symbol" I find the below links interesting... 

  Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institute_of_Noetic_Sciences 

  Dean Radin 
  "Short Bio: Dean Radin, PhD, is Senior Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) and Adjunct Faculty in the Department of Psychology at Sonoma State University (Rohnert Park, CA). " 
  ....... 
  "While at Bell Labs I started to publish some of my psi experiments. Then I started to attend the annual conferences of the Parapsychological Association and the Society for Scientific Exploration, and to present talks at their annual meetings. I was delighted to find groups of scientists who were as interested in these phenomena as I was, and the contacts I made eventually led to my gaining appointments to conduct psi research at Princeton University, University of Edinburgh, University of Nevada, SRI International and Interval Research Corporation. At SRI International I worked on a then secret government-funded program of psi research. Portions of that program have since been declassified and accounts about it (some more accurate than others) can be found in many books. In 2000 I cofounded the Boundary Institute and in 2001 became Senior Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS). I also hold an occasional adjunct appointment in the Psychology Department at Sonoma State University and have been a member of the Distinguished Consulting Faculty at Saybrook Graduate School. " 
  http://www.deanradin.com/NewWeb/bio.html 

  A comment by M. Sufilight: 
  We are living in an informations society these days. 
  My view is, that somewhere along the line the leading medias, leading politicians, leading religious leaders (dogmatic and non-dogmatic) will have to face the fact, that they NEED to take a stance on their view upon PARAPSYCHOLOGY in the face of the present day scientific knowledge and research. 

  The question is when will this happen? 

  M. Sufilight 

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