Re: Theos-World Give up meat to save the planet
Oct 27, 2009 06:04 PM
by MKR
Glad to see your message. Social changes take time. I have great hopes in
the younger generation who have much better access to information is likely
to be affected when they become aware of the issues involved in factory
farming, slaughter and further processing. From what I have seen, animal
rights interest ultimately leads those interested becoming ethical
vegetarians in due course. Who can predict how the future is going to
evolve. We will have to see how changes take place in the future.
MKR
On 10/27/09, Augoeides-222@comcast.net <Augoeides-222@comcast.net> wrote:
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> MKR,
> Just for the record I have been a vegetarian since 1981. No beef, pork,
> lamb, chicken or fowl, fish, or whole eggs. I eat soy products as a
> substitute, it is high protein, zero chloresterol, but you have to measure
> the salt content in it's porttions when eating it. Today soy products are
> textured, seasoned, colored to imitate the real animal products. So I have
> sliced balogne, ham, smoked turkey, salami, canadian bacon, peperoni for
> pizza, tuscan chicken breast w/sauce, b-b-q ribs w/sauce, hot dogs, fat
> franks, breakfast sausage, italian sausage, chorizo sausage, and more as
> meat substitutes. there are also soy cheeses sliced or in block. Soy milk
> substitute and soy drinks.
>
> I also try to recycle all that I can but I have also found major
> deficencies in this area such as there is no public entity that will receive
> all the billions of VHS Tapes, only privat commercial enterprises who will
> charge you a per/lb. rate to take the tapes from you. I have been instructed
> by my city and county and state resources to just dump them in the garbage
> dumpster to go to the local landfill. I threw 0ver 600 VHS taped away in the
> instructed manner. My personal view is they were originally made from
> petroleum and they could be recycled back.
>
> But I must add I am not a pothead alienated against society in general and
> will never blindly subscribe to oxymoronic rationalizations like lets return
> to the ancient way of living and get rid of all modern objects and
> technologys. Lets ban automobiles and oil. lets burn down new home
> developments because they occupy land formerly used by animals or farms
> (PETA). And a host of other rediculous nonsense that no educated rational
> intelligent thinking person would ever entertain. I personally don't have
> any desire to return to the time of Madame Blavastky when no one had toilet
> paper and people used corn cobs soaked in water kept next to the toilet in a
> bowl. (people who are nuts over tree's that are used to make toilet paper
> would do that to all of us lol! )
>
> Try transporting 40 - 80 tons on a bicycle some time lol! Shall we go back
> to candles for light at darkness? Etc etc.
>
> When they handed out brains the rabid environmentalists wern't there is my
> view.
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> Regards,
> John
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> ----- Original message -----
> From: "MKR" <mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
> To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:56:31 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Give up meat to save the planet
>
> I still remember the times when smoking was very fashionable. Now, in the
> USA, most offices and public places and even rental cars are non-smoking.
> Who could have predicted this trend. Let us hope Vegetarianism becomes
> fashionable and acceptable and will reduce the killing of animals for food.
>
> It will take time. Even if a large segment turns vegetarian, the results
> will save suffering animals.
>
> MKR
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:22 PM, < Augoeides-222@comcast.net<Augoeides-222%40comcast.net>> wrote:
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> > Hmmm,
> > OMG were all doomed!!!!!! we must pass a law requiring methane meters to
> be
> > installed on every beast, wild or otherwise, including humans so we can
> get
> > an exact idea of all the hot gas pervading the world! We must install
> > infra-red cameras everywhere so we can ticket anyone farting anywhere in
> the
> > world and procure revenues to fight the problem! Precision methane meters
>
> > will be the future industry of economies all over the world even small
> > chickens, gerbels, dogs , cats, zoo animals, and ofcoursw all kinds of
> birds
> > must fitted with methane meters light enough to allow them to continue
> > flying. And the evil vegetarians who comsume soy products should be taxed
>
> > enormously and even sent to jail for consuming soy of any kind becuase it
> is
> > a crime against world ecology depriving wild life a ideal habitat. cites
> > must be evicerated from existance and the land returned to the wild
> animals.
> > People can huddle together in clumps of millions naked in designated
> > locations wearing their fitted methane meters. If necessary Alternative
> > Three could be used to return the Earth to Animals who them will hold
> thier
> > own courts to convict each species of methane crimes and exterminate them
> to
> > save others from the doom of climate change. Think Petry Dish the End is
> > Near!!!
> >
> > John (Hehe)
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "MKR" < mkr777@gmail.com <mkr777%40gmail.com> <mkr777%40gmail.com>>
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> > To: "theos-talk" < theos-talk@yahoogroups.com<theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> 40yahoogroups.com>>
> >
> > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 5:52:28 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > Subject: Theos-World Give up meat to save the planet
> >
> > Climate chief Lord Stern: give up meat to save the planet
> >
> > Here is an interesting article on the subject. Like smoking getting out
> of
> > fashion, meat eating may also go the same way in the years to come. Lord
> > Stern, former chief economist of World Bank says:
> >
> > People will need to consider turning vegetarian if the world is to
> conquer
> > climate change, according to a leading authority on global warming.
> >
> > He predicted that peopleâs attitudes would evolve until meat eating
> became
> > unacceptable. âI think itâs important that people think about what they
> are
> >
> > doing and that includes what they are eating,â he said. âI am 61 now and
> > attitudes towards drinking and driving have changed radically since I was
> a
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> > student. People change their notion of what is responsible. They will
> > increasingly ask about the carbon content of their food.â
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> > Full article at:
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> > http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6891362.ece
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