Theos-Talk Archives (October 2009 Message tt00021)

Dear friend...

My views are:

Organisations come and go in this world of time. And have done so for thousands of years.
Think about Ammonious Saccas, Pot-Amun, the Eleusian Mysteries, Thoth-Hermes in Egypt at the Elephantine island Mysteries.

Sometimes one will have to let it go - and face the facts.
If TS can be said to be truly gone, we all know that the theosophical teachings is not!

And let us remember the true and wise words from Master M. - Mahatma Letter no. 47.


Master Morya said:
"Well, say I am an ignoramus in your English ways, and I'll say you are one in our Tibetan customs and we will split the difference and shake our astral hands over Barnaway and square the discussion. 
The old woman? Of course she will be frantic -- but who cares? It's kept from her however secret. No use making her more miserable than what she is. Cook is a pump of filth, with perpetually working pistons and the sooner he screws them up -- the better for him. Your last letter to me is less a "petition" than a protest, my respected Sahib. It's voice is that of the war sankh of my Rajput ancestors, rather than the cooing of a friend. And I like it all the more I promise you. It has the right ring of honest frankness. So let us talk -- for sharp as your voice may be, your heart is warm and you end by saying "Whether you decree that what seems to me right be done or not" you are ever ours faithfully etc." 

"Europe is a large place but the world is bigger yet. The sun of Theosophy must shine for all, not for a part. There is more of this movement than you have yet had an inkling of, and the work of the T.S. is linked in with similar work that is secretly going on in all parts of the world. "
http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/mahatma/ml-47.htm (received through Damodar, 1882)


So let the sun shine. And if possible you will your self create a nucleus promoting the theosophical teachings of all ages. Allright?



M. Sufilight




  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: preethi muthiah 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 9:45 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World HPB: He who wipeth not away the filth...


    I am just reading this today, so please forgive my late reply to this discussion. Yes, all of what HPB and all said were beautiful words...still are...but these apply to us only when we have a teacher who is a teacher worth her words....when the teacher leads the people placed under her astray all so that she can hold on to power, and when the inner Voice of the disciple tells the disciple that what the teacher is doing is wrong, then one chooses to listen to the Voice of the Higher rather than the teacher without....because the Voice of the Higher is one with the Voice of the Master Within....the teacher without is just another human being with flaws and weaknesses as oneself...such a teacher cannot lead us forward and that is the whole point in the TS today...that we are placed under a human being with flaws who does not want to accept that she has flaws and expects us to blindly follow her and in so doing to ignore the Voice of that Higher Self
  within.

  Fraternally

  Preethi

  --- On Sun, 13/9/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:

  From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
  Subject: Theos-World HPB: He who wipeth not away the filth...
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Sunday, 13 September, 2009, 12:45 AM

   

  Dear friends

  My views are:

  Here is a little something about taking care of theosophy...

  "(From the "Book of Discipline" in the schools of "Dzyan.") 

  "1. TO THE EARNEST DISCIPLE HIS TEACHER TAKES THE PLACE OF FATHER AND MOTHER. FOR, WHEREAS THEY GAVE HIM HIS BODY AND ITS FACULTIES, ITS LIFE AND CASUAL FORM, THE TEACHER SHOWS HIM HOW TO DEVELOP THE INNER FACULTIES FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE ETERNAL WISDOM. 

  "2. TO THE DISCIPLE EACH FELLOW-DISCIPLE BECOMES A BROTHER AND SISTER, A PORTION OF HIMSELF,* FOR HIS INTERESTS AND ASPIRATIONS ARE THEIRS, HIS WELFARE INTERWOVEN WITH THEIRS, HIS PROGRESS HELPED OR HINDERED BY THEIR INTELLIGENCE, MORALITY, AND BEHAVIOR THROUGH THE INTIMACY BROUGHT ABOUT BY THEIR CO-DISCIPLESHIP. 

  "3. A CO-DISCIPLE OR ASSOCIATE CANNOT BACKSLIDE OR FALL OUT OF THE LINE WITHOUT AFFECTING THOSE WHO STAND FIRM THROUGH THE SYMPATHETIC TIE BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND THE PSYCHICAL CURRENTS BETWEEN THEM AND THEIR TEACHER. 

  "4. WOE TO THE DESERTER, WOE ALSO TO ALL WHO HELP TO BRING HIS SOUL TO THE POINT WHERE DESERTION FIRST PRESENTS ITSELF BEFORE HIS MIND'S EYE, AS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS. GOLD IN THE CRUCIBLE IS HE WHO STANDS THE MELTING HEAT OF TRIAL, AND LETS ONLY THE DROSS BE BURNT OUT OF HIS HEART; ACCURSED BY KARMIC ACTION WILL FIND HIMSELF HE WHO THROWS DROSS INTO THE MELTING-POT OF DISCIPLESHIP FOR THE DEBASEMENT OF HIS FELLOW-PUPIL. AS THE MEMBERS TO THE BODY, SO ARE THE DISCIPLES TO EACH OTHER, AND TO THE HEAD AND HEART WHICH TEACH AND NOURISH THEM WITH THE LIFE- STREAM OF TRUTH. 

  "5. AS THE LIMBS DEFEND THE HEAD AND HEART OF THE BODY THEY BELONG TO, SO HAVE THE DISCIPLES TO DEFEND THE HEAD AND THE HEART OF THE BODY THEY BELONG TO (in this case Theosophy) FROM INJURY. 

  (From the Letter of a Master.) 

  . . . . AND IF THE LIMBS HAVE TO DEFEND THE HEAD AND HEART OF THEIR BODY, THEN WHY NOT SO, ALSO, THE DISCIPLES THEIR TEACHERS AS REPRESENTING THE SCIENCE OF THEOSOPHY WHICH CONTAINS AND 

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  * "So shalt thou be in full accord with all that lives; bear love to men as though they were thy brother-pupils, disciples of one Teacher, the sons of one sweet mother." (Vide Fragment III, in Voice of the Silence, p. 49.) 

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  INCLUDES THE 'HEAD' OF THEIR PRIVILEGE, THE 'HEART' OF THEIR SPIRITUAL GROWTH? SAITH THE SCRIPTURE:- "HE WHO WIPETH NOT AWAY THE FILTH WITH WHICH THE PARENT'S BODY MAY HAVE BEEN DEFILED BY AN ENEMY, NEITHER LOVES THE PARENT NOR HONOURS HIMSELF. HE WHO DEFENDETH NOT THE PERSECUTED AND THE HELPLESS, WHO GIVETH NOT OF HIS FOOD TO THE STARVING NOR DRAWETH WATER FROM HIS WELL FOR THE THIRSTY, HATH BEEN BORN TOO SOON IN HUMAN SHAPE. "BEHOLD THE TRUTH BEFORE YOU: A CLEAN LIFE, AN OPEN MIND, A PURE HEART, AN EAGER INTELLECT, AN UNVEILED SPIRITUAL PERCEPTION, A BROTHERLINESS FOR ONE'S CO-DISCIPLE, A READINESS TO GIVE AND RECEIVE ADVICE AND INSTRUCTION, A LOYAL SENSE OF DUTY TO THE TEACHER, A WILLING OBEDIENCE TO THE BEHESTS OF TRUTH, ONCE WE HAVE PLACED OUR CONFIDENCE IN, AND BELIEVE THAT TEACHER TO BE IN POSSESSION OF IT; A COURAGEOUS ENDURANCE OF PERSONAL INJUSTICE, A BRAVE DECLARATION OF PRINCIPLES, A VALIANT DEFENCE OF THOSE WHO ARE UNJUSTLY ATTACKED, AND A
  CONSTANT EYE TO THE IDEAL OF HUMAN PROGRESSION AND PERFECTION WHICH THE SECRET SCIENCE (Gupta-Vidyâ) DEPICTS--THESE ARE THE GOLDEN STAIRS UP THE STEPS OF WHICH THE LEARNER MAY CLIMB TO THE TEMPLE OF DIVINE WISDOM." 

  (From No. III of the Instructions. ) "

  http://www.katinkah esselink. net/esinstr. htm

  M. Sufilight

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