Theos-Talk Archives (September 2009 Message tt00081)

Dear friends

My views are:

I think the following words will somehow adress the whole matter so that the Seekers might understand the Dan Brown ideas a bit better.


Rennes-le-Château  and the Prieure de Sion
Bérenger Sauniere was a Martinist!?
http://www.perillos.com/bs_fm.html

HPB / GRS. Mead said:
"Martinists. A Society in France, founded by a great mystic called the Marquis de St. Martin, a disciple of Martinez Pasqualis. It was first established at Lyons as a kind of occult Masonic Society, its members believing in the possibility of communicating with Planetary Spirits and minor Gods and genii of the ultramundane Spheres. Louis Claude de St. Martin, born in 1743, had commenced life as a brilliant officer in the army, but left it to devote himself to study and the belles lettres, ending his career by becoming an ardent Theosophist and a disciple of Jacob Boehmen. He tried to bring back Masonry to its primeval character of Occultism and Theurgy, but failed. He first made his "Rectified Rite" to consist of ten degrees, but these were brought down owing to the study of the original Masonic orders-to seven. Masons complain that he introduced certain ideas and adopted rites "at variance with the archæological history of Masonry"; but so did Cagliostro and St Germain before him, as all those who knew well the origin of Free masonry."
http://theosophicalglossary.net/
also
http://www.archive.org/stream/theosophicalglo00meadgoog#page/n217/mode/1up

Also:
"Paschalis, Martinez. A very learned man, a mystic and occultist. Born about 1700, in Portugal. He travelled extensively, acquiring knowledge wherever he could in the East, in Turkey, Palestine, Arabia, and Central Asia. He was a great Kabbalist. He was the teacher of the Initiator of the Marquis de St. Martin, who founded the mystical Martinistic School and Lodges. Paschalis is reported to have died in St. Domingo about 1779, leaving several excellent works behind him."
http://theosophicalglossary.net/

Also

http://www.archive.org/stream/theosophicalglo00meadgoog#page/n260/mode/1up



Not to mention HPB's Isis Unveiled, vol. 2, p. 381, 384, 388-392 (Although this volume all in all contains some mistakes).
A.
"Writing upon this subject, we must hear what Wilcke has to say of these pretensions: 

"The present Knight Templars of Paris will have it, that they are direct descendants from the ancient Knights, and endeavor to prove this by documents, interior regulations, and secret doctrines. Foraisse says the Fraternity of Freemasons was founded in Egypt, Moses communicating the secret teaching to the Israelites, Jesus to the Apostles, and thence it found its way to the Knight Templars. Such inventions are necessary . . . to the assertion that the Parisian Templars are the offspring of the ancient order. All these asseverations, unsupported by history, were fabricated in the High Chapter of Clermont (Jesuits), and preserved by the Parisian Templars as a legacy left them by those political revolutionists, the Stuarts and the Jesuits.""

B.

"So impossible does it become for the originators of the ecclesiastical pseudo-order of Templars, invented, according to Dupuy, in France, by the adherents of the Stuarts, to avoid being considered a branch of the Order of the Jesuits, that we are not surprised to see an anonymous author, rightly suspected of belonging to the Jesuit Chapter at Clermont, publishing a work in 1751, in Brussels, on the lawsuit of the Knights Templar. In this volume, in sundry mutilated notes, additions, and commentaries, he represents the innocence of the Templars of the accusation of "heresy," thus robbing them of the greatest title to respect and admiration that these early free-thinkers and martyrs have won! 

This last pseudo-order was constituted at Paris, on the 4th of November, 1804, by virtue of a forged Constitution, and ever since it has "contaminated genuine Freemasonry," as the highest Masons themselves tell us. La Charte de transmission (tabula aurea Larmenii) presents the outward appearance of such extreme antiquity "that Gregoire confesses that if all the other relics of the Parisian treasury of the Order had not silenced his doubts as to their ancient descent, the sight of this charter would at the very first glance have persuaded him."* The first Grand Master of this spurious Order was a physician of Paris, Dr. Fahre-Palaprat, who assumed the name of Bernard Raymond."

C.
Former TS member Charles Sotheran on the High Degrees of Freemasonry:
""It is curious to note too that most of the bodies which work these, such as the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, the Rite of Avignon, the Order of the Temple, Fessler's Rite, the 'Grand Council of the Emperors of the East and West -- Sovereign Prince Masons,' etc., etc., are nearly all the offspring of the sons of Ignatius Loyola. The Baron Hundt, Chevalier Ramsay, Tschoudy, Zinnendorf, and numerous others who founded the grades in these rites, worked under instructions from the General of the Jesuits. The nest where these high degrees were hatched, and no Masonic rite is free from their baleful influence more or less, was the Jesuit College of Clermont at Paris."

D.
HPB on the above by Sotheran:
"Thus falls to ruins the grand epic poem of Masons, sung by so many mysterious Knights as another revealed gospel. As we see, the Temple of Solomon is being undermined and brought to the ground by its own chief "Master Masons," of this century. But if, following the ingenious exoteric description of the Bible, there are yet Masons who persist in regarding it as once an actual structure, who, of the students of the esoteric doctrine will ever consider this mythic temple otherwise than an allegory, embodying the secret science? Whether or not there ever was a real temple of that name, we may well leave to archaeologists to decide; but that the detailed description thereof in 1 Kings is purely allegorical, no serious scholar, proficient in the ancient as well as mediaeval jargon of the kabalists and alchemists, can doubt. The building of the Temple of Solomon is the symbolical representation of the gradual acquirement of the secret wisdom, or magic; the erection and development of the spiritual from the earthly; the manifestation of the power and splendor of the spirit in the physical world, through the wisdom and genius of the builder. The latter, when he has become an adept, is a mightier king than Solomon himself, the emblem of the sun or Light himself -- the light of the real subjective world, shining in the darkness of the objective universe. This is the "Temple" which can be reared without the sound of the hammer, or any tool of iron being heard in the house while it is "in building.""


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Yet, we also know - that King Solomon's Temples was something else:


Not many theosophists considers the fact that 
the DOME OF THE ROCK in Jerusalem is Octagonal in shape.

Idries Shah, the Grand Sheik of the Sufis and historian of their faith, commented on the connection between the Templars and the Sufis: 

"That the Templars were thinking in terms of the Sufi , and not the Solomonic, Temple in Jerusalem, and its building, is strongly suggested by one important fact. "Temple" churches which they erected, such as one in London, were modeled upon the Temple as found by the Crusaders, not upon any earlier building. This Temple was none other than the octagonal Dome of the Rock, built in the seventh century on a Sufi mathematical design, and restored in 913. The Sufi legend of the building of the Temple accords with the alleged Masonic version. As an example we may note that the "Solomon" of the Sufi Builders is not King Solomon but the Sufi "King" Maaruf Karkhi (died 815), disciple of David (Daud of Tai, died 781) and hence by extension considered the son of David, and referenced cryptically as Solomon - who was the son of David. The Great murder commemorated by the Sufi Builders is not that of the person (Hiram) supposed by the Masonic tradition to have been killed. The martyr of the Sufi Builders is Mansur el-Hallaj (858-922), juridically murdered because of the Sufi secret, which he spoke in a manner which could not be understood, and thus was dismembered as a heretic.' - 
(Idries Shah, "The Sufis" Octagon Press)


Mansur el-Hallaj was slain in Bhagdad 922.- - - So HPB's Isis Unveiled is not quite right.But she also called it "trash" later on.Try the below link.MY BOOKS [Lucifer, Vol. VIII, No. 45, May, 1891, pp. 241-247]http://www.katinkahesselink.net/blavatsky/articles/v13/y1891_024.htm

Allright?





M. Sufilight



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MKR 
  To: theos-talk ; theos-l 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:20 PM
  Subject: Theos-World Some good news on Freemasonry


    Dan Brown, whose book Da Vinci Code is a very popular one has written a new
  book The Lost Symbol. A recent comment on this might interest many
  theosophists. Here are some quotes:
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  Freemasons await Dan Brown novel `The Lost Symbol'
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  Brown goes out of his way in "The Lost Symbol" to present the lodge as
  essentially benign and misunderstood. Masons are praised for their religious
  tolerance and their elaborate rituals are seen as no more unusual than those
  of formal religions. The plot centers in part on an "unfair" anti-Masonic
  video that "conspiracy theorists would feed on ... like sharks," Langdon
  says.
  .
  "I have enormous respect for the Masons," Brown told The Associated Press
  during a recent interview. "In the most fundamental terms, with different
  cultures killing each other over whose version of God is correct, here is a
  worldwide organization that essentially says, `We don't care what you call
  God, or what you think about God, only that you believe in a god and let's
  all stand together as brothers and look in the same direction.'
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  Read the full article here:
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  http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5idBm00Tj271UVzrWqecKau3rL-_gD9ANN1RG0
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