Theos-Talk Archives (August 2009 Message tt00036)

Dear friends

My views are:


Here follows part 4 of 4 on the quest for H. P. Blavatsky masters.



Jamgon Kongtrul (d. 1899) is mentioned here on wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamgon_Kongtrul

Elsewhere we read that Jamgon Kongtrul was a very learned and important teacher within the Tibetan Buddhism, and that he mastered all the 4 major Tibetan Buddhist lineages on a high level, and was co-founder of the non-sectarian RIME Movement seeking to create a synthesis of the Tibetan Buddhist branches.

Jamgon Kongtrul wrote extensively. And his major work "the Five Great Treasuries" is today said to have been of very great importance, because without it a lot of valuable information about Tibetan Buddhism else would have been lost - because the Chinese invasion of Tibet destroyed a great many scriptures in the monasteries in Tibet and China.

The Five Great Treasuries include: 
Rinchen Terzo 60 volumes plus, Gyachen Kardzo of 5 volumes, Ngadzo, Dam Ngadzo, Sheja Dzo of 3 volumes. 
(Each volume has a different number of folios from at least one hundred to an average of 300 to 400.)

Further it is known that Jamgon Kongtrul was taught by his other Co-founder of the Rime Movement named Jamyang Khyentse Wangpo (d. 1892). One of their main seats was Palpung Monastery in Sichuan in China.


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M. Sufilight says:

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THE GELUGPA AND THE THEOSOPHISTS:
The spiritual head of the Geluk-pa (yellow hats) sect is known as the Ganden Tripa or holder of the throne of Ganden, the main monastery of Tsongkhapa. Now Ganden's main seat has moved to southern India because of the Chinese invasion.

The theosophical master known as Khuthumi was known to be a teacher in various monasteries, in China, Tibet (Shi-gatse), and the Kashmir and its related areas.  And some say the "holder of the golden robe". The theosophical teaching are often related to the - esoteric - Gelukpa teachings.


A question:
The Ganden Tripa is the official teacher of the esoteric versions of the Gelukpa.
Such a teaching is always a synthesis teaching. The real teacher is most often of a more unoffcicial nature.


Could this title the "holder of the golden robe" be something like the below Kagyu Garland or merely related to it or a more unofficial representative, perhaps, the Gelugpa "holder of the golden robe"?

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Now the Kagyu is not Gelukpa, but we have the following...
"The Golden Kagyu Garland" refers to the masters who are holders of the lineage in which Mahamudra is a main theme. And the Mahamudra's are signs which equal ancient Sanskrit letters, and was in the past only transmitted orally it is said."
http://www.karmapa.org/history/origin.htm

"The Kagyu, like the other denominations, transmits its teachings from master to student. However, the Karma Kagyu as a practice lineage with a strong, well-defined set of transmissions  -- it is known as the "ear-whispered" school -- demonstrates a clear, well-defined pattern in its history called "The Golden Garland."  It is especially evident in the way the Karmapa and the Situpa maintain a special connection, as can be seen below.  They have been alternately teacher and student for generations."
http://www.khandro.net/kagyu_garland.htm
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Mahamudra Yoga
"Gurus of the White Dynasty
AS THE twenty-fourth head in the line after Marpa, Guru Padma-Karpo, the author of our text of The Epitome of the Great Symbol compiled it as we have it, after extracting its essentials at the wish of a disciple (a probation-shishya) who was the King of Kashmir. The king returned to Kashmir, the Land of Saffron, and seems to have established a Kashmiri hierarchy of the White Line there."
http://oaks.nvg.org/symbol-yoga.html



I am not saying that all of the above is all true, but I find it suggestive.



M. Sufilight

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