Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
Jul 31, 2009 05:57 PM
by Cass Silva
I definitely did not want to quit - even though I did for 20 years - took it up again 10 years ago, so how can I explain this to myself?
Cass
>
>From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, 31 July, 2009 2:22:52 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>
>
>I won't. Hypnosis is virtually useless in dealing with addiction unless
>the person is able to quit without it.
>
>Besides, I don't do that sort of thing. My experiments are in a much more
>interesting field.
>
>Chuck the heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 7/30/2009 9:12:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:
>
>ah, well how about working your magic on my smoking presuming you are able
>to 'remote' hypnotise!! lol
>
>Cass
>
>>
>>From: "_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) "
><_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) >
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com)
>>Sent: Friday, 31 July, 2009 12:20:02 AM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>
>>
>>Probably.
>>
>>I've done it for over forty years now.
>>
>>Chuck the Heretic
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/30/2009 12:58:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>yahoo.
>>
>>Have you ever been hypnotised Chuck?
>>Cass
>>
>>>
>>>From: "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. From: "_Drps
>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ ya
>>>Sent: Thursday, 30 July, 2009 3:14:55 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>
>>>
>>>Hitler never hypnotized anyone. He simply appealed to pre-existing
>>>beliefs and used well-known methods of persuasion and body language.
>>>
>>>And yes, anyone can be hypnotized without their knowledge or consent.
>The
>>>idea that it is not possible is one of the great nonsense myths around
>>>hypnosis which hypnotists find in their interest to continue having
>>people
>>>believe.
>>>
>>>And no, they normally do not lose consciousness, nor is it desirable
>that
>>>they should in most cases. It is sufficient to remove memory. As far as
>>>the smoking business is concerned, there are simply limits to what
>>hypnosis
>>>can do. It is very hard to remove a chemical dependancy.
>>>
>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 7/29/2009 8:56:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>yahoo.
>>>
>>>Wanna bet its not will. How did Hitler manage to mass hypnotise half the
>>>german nation? It is impossible to hypnotise a person without their
>>>knowing and without their consent. I have been hypnotised many times
>(for
>>>smoking) one doesn't even lose consciousness. Only one hypnotiser (over
>>20 years
>>>ago now)was successful. I restarted, by choice, and none of the others
>>>have been able to hypnotise me into quitting.
>>>
>>>And no, I did not want to quit the first time, even told him that I had
>>no
>>>intention of quitting but was here to appease my mother. Didn't matter
>>>to him.
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
>>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@
>yahoog
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009 2:44:55 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Will has nothing to do with it. It is simply a matter of finding the
>>keys
>>>>that activate certain thinking processes and then using suggestion to
>do
>>>>the rest. You can effectively hypnotize a person without the other
>>person
>>>>even knowing that he was hypnotized.
>>>>
>>>>For example, years ago a young friend of mine was taking a math class
>>and
>>>>was convinced that she was going to fail the final exam because she was
>
>>>>drawing a blank on certain things she knew would be on the test. I was
>>>talking
>>>>to her on the phone and every so often would drop my voice an octave
>and
>>>>tell her that she would remember everything when the time came. And
>that
>>>>was all I needed to do.
>>>>
>>>>She passed the test easily because while taking it, the suggestion I
>>>>planted kicked in and her own mind did the rest of the work.
>>>>
>>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>In a message dated 7/28/2009 10:06:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>>>
>>>>Hypnotism relies on one person's will being stronger than anothers,
>>>thereby
>>>>allowing a hypnotists suggestion to take hold.
>>>>
>>>>Cass
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen <_global-theosophy@ global-thgl_
>>>>(mailto:global- (mailto:global- <WBR>theos>
>>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@
>>yahoog
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, 28 July, 2009 7:06:41 PM
>>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>According to TS Glossary we have:
>>>>>
>>>>>"Hypnotism (Gr.). A name given by Dr. Braid to various processes by
>>>which
>>>>one person of strong
>>>>>will-power plunges another of weaker mind into a kind of trance; once
>>in
>>>>such a state the latter will do anything suggested to him by the
>>>>hypnotiser. Unless produced for beneficial purposes, Occultists would
>>>call it black
>>>>magic or Sorcery. It is the most dangerous of practices, morally and
>>>>physically, as it interferes with the nerve fluid and the nerves
>>>controlling the
>>>>circulation in the capillary blood-vessels. "
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>>>>>
>>>>>Maybe there is a clue in the fact that various drugs influences the
>>>blood
>>>>and/ or nerves in the brain etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>>From: Cass Silva
>>>>>To: theos-l@yahoogroups .com
>>>>>Cc: Theosophy
>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:24 AM
>>>>>Subject: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>>>
>>>>>A question. If schitzophrenia is a state of (temporary) possession,
>how
>>>>is it that schizophrenic drugs can control the possessed?
>>>>>
>>>>>Cass
>>>>>
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