Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00529)

ah, well how about working your magic on my smoking presuming you are able to 'remote' hypnotise!!  lol

Cass


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>From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Friday, 31 July, 2009 12:20:02 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>
>  
>Probably.
>
>I've done it for over forty years now.
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 7/30/2009 12:58:06 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:
>
>Have you ever been hypnotised Chuck?
>Cass
>
>>
>>From: "_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) " 
><_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) >
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com) 
>>Sent: Thursday, 30 July, 2009 3:14:55 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>
>> 
>>Hitler never hypnotized anyone. He simply appealed to pre-existing 
>>beliefs and used well-known methods of persuasion and body language.
>>
>>And yes, anyone can be hypnotized without their knowledge or consent. The 
>>idea that it is not possible is one of the great nonsense myths around 
>>hypnosis which hypnotists find in their interest to continue having 
>people 
>>believe.
>>
>>And no, they normally do not lose consciousness, nor is it desirable that 
>>they should in most cases. It is sufficient to remove memory. As far as 
>>the smoking business is concerned, there are simply limits to what 
>hypnosis 
>>can do. It is very hard to remove a chemical dependancy. 
>>
>>Chuck the Heretic
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/29/2009 8:56:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>yahoo.
>>
>>Wanna bet its not will. How did Hitler manage to mass hypnotise half the 
>>german nation? It is impossible to hypnotise a person without their 
>>knowing and without their consent. I have been hypnotised many times (for 
>>smoking) one doesn't even lose consciousness. Only one hypnotiser (over 
>20 years 
>>ago now)was successful. I restarted, by choice, and none of the others 
>>have been able to hypnotise me into quitting.
>>
>>And no, I did not want to quit the first time, even told him that I had 
>no 
>>intention of quitting but was here to appease my mother. Didn't matter 
>>to him.
>>
>>Cass 
>>
>>>
>>>From: "_Drpsionic@ From: "_Drpsionic@ <WBR>aFrom: "_Drps
>><_Drpsionic@ _Drpsionic@ <WBR>aol. Drp_ (m_Drpsionic@ <WB>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>>Sent: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009 2:44:55 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>
>>> 
>>>Will has nothing to do with it. It is simply a matter of finding the 
>keys 
>>>that activate certain thinking processes and then using suggestion to do 
>>>the rest. You can effectively hypnotize a person without the other 
>person 
>>>even knowing that he was hypnotized.
>>>
>>>For example, years ago a young friend of mine was taking a math class 
>and 
>>>was convinced that she was going to fail the final exam because she was 
>>>drawing a blank on certain things she knew would be on the test. I was 
>>talking 
>>>to her on the phone and every so often would drop my voice an octave and 
>>>tell her that she would remember everything when the time came. And that 
>>>was all I needed to do.
>>>
>>>She passed the test easily because while taking it, the suggestion I 
>>>planted kicked in and her own mind did the rest of the work.
>>>
>>>Chuck the Heretic
>>>
>>>
>>>In a message dated 7/28/2009 10:06:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>>
>>>Hypnotism relies on one person's will being stronger than anothers, 
>>thereby 
>>>allowing a hypnotists suggestion to take hold.
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
>>>>
>>>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen <_global-theosophy@ global-thgl_ 
>>>(mailto:global- (mailto:global- <WBR>theos>
>>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ 
>yahoog
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, 28 July, 2009 7:06:41 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>>According to TS Glossary we have:
>>>>
>>>>"Hypnotism (Gr.). A name given by Dr. Braid to various processes by 
>>which 
>>>one person of strong
>>>>will-power plunges another of weaker mind into a kind of trance; once 
>in 
>>>such a state the latter will do anything suggested to him by the 
>>>hypnotiser. Unless produced for beneficial purposes, Occultists would 
>>call it black 
>>>magic or Sorcery. It is the most dangerous of practices, morally and 
>>>physically, as it interferes with the nerve fluid and the nerves 
>>controlling the 
>>>circulation in the capillary blood-vessels. "
>>>>___http://www.phx- _ (http://www.phx- /) _ (_http://www.phx- _ 
>(http://www.phx- /) /) _ (__http://www.phx- _ (http://www.phx- /) _ 
>>(_http://www.phx- _ (http://www.phx- /) /) /) ult-lodge. org/DEFGHIJK. 
>htm#h
>>>>
>>>>Maybe there is a clue in the fact that various drugs influences the 
>>blood 
>>>and/ or nerves in the brain etc.
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: Cass Silva 
>>>>To: theos-l@yahoogroups .com 
>>>>Cc: Theosophy 
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:24 AM
>>>>Subject: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>>
>>>>A question. If schitzophrenia is a state of (temporary) possession, how 
>>>is it that schizophrenic drugs can control the possessed?
>>>>
>>>>Cass
>>>>
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