Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00520)

Have you ever been hypnotised Chuck?
Cass


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>From: "Drpsionic@aol.com" <Drpsionic@aol.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Thursday, 30 July, 2009 3:14:55 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>
>  
>Hitler never hypnotized anyone. He simply appealed to pre-existing 
>beliefs and used well-known methods of persuasion and body language.
>
>And yes, anyone can be hypnotized without their knowledge or consent. The 
>idea that it is not possible is one of the great nonsense myths around 
>hypnosis which hypnotists find in their interest to continue having people 
>believe.
>
>And no, they normally do not lose consciousness, nor is it desirable that 
>they should in most cases. It is sufficient to remove memory. As far as 
>the smoking business is concerned, there are simply limits to what hypnosis 
>can do. It is very hard to remove a chemical dependancy. 
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 7/29/2009 8:56:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:
>
>Wanna bet its not will. How did Hitler manage to mass hypnotise half the 
>german nation? It is impossible to hypnotise a person without their 
>knowing and without their consent. I have been hypnotised many times (for 
>smoking) one doesn't even lose consciousness. Only one hypnotiser (over 20 years 
>ago now)was successful. I restarted, by choice, and none of the others 
>have been able to hypnotise me into quitting.
>
>And no, I did not want to quit the first time, even told him that I had no 
>intention of quitting but was here to appease my mother. Didn't matter 
>to him.
>
>Cass 
>
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>>From: "_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) " 
><_Drpsionic@aol. Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol. com) >
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com) 
>>Sent: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009 2:44:55 PM
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>
>> 
>>Will has nothing to do with it. It is simply a matter of finding the keys 
>>that activate certain thinking processes and then using suggestion to do 
>>the rest. You can effectively hypnotize a person without the other person 
>>even knowing that he was hypnotized.
>>
>>For example, years ago a young friend of mine was taking a math class and 
>>was convinced that she was going to fail the final exam because she was 
>>drawing a blank on certain things she knew would be on the test. I was 
>talking 
>>to her on the phone and every so often would drop my voice an octave and 
>>tell her that she would remember everything when the time came. And that 
>>was all I needed to do.
>>
>>She passed the test easily because while taking it, the suggestion I 
>>planted kicked in and her own mind did the rest of the work.
>>
>>Chuck the Heretic
>>
>>
>>In a message dated 7/28/2009 10:06:43 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
>>silva_cass@ silva_cass@ <WBR>ya
>>
>>Hypnotism relies on one person's will being stronger than anothers, 
>thereby 
>>allowing a hypnotists suggestion to take hold.
>>
>>Cass
>>
>>>
>>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen <_global-theosophy@ global-thgl_ 
>>(mailto:global- (mailto:global- <WBR>theos>
>>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos- To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>>Sent: Tuesday, 28 July, 2009 7:06:41 PM
>>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>
>>> 
>>>According to TS Glossary we have:
>>>
>>>"Hypnotism (Gr.). A name given by Dr. Braid to various processes by 
>which 
>>one person of strong
>>>will-power plunges another of weaker mind into a kind of trance; once in 
>>such a state the latter will do anything suggested to him by the 
>>hypnotiser. Unless produced for beneficial purposes, Occultists would 
>call it black 
>>magic or Sorcery. It is the most dangerous of practices, morally and 
>>physically, as it interferes with the nerve fluid and the nerves 
>controlling the 
>>circulation in the capillary blood-vessels. "
>>>__http://www.phx- _ (http://www.phx- /) _ (_http://www.phx- _ 
>(http://www.phx- /) /) ult-lodge. org/DEFGHIJK. htm#h
>>>
>>>Maybe there is a clue in the fact that various drugs influences the 
>blood 
>>and/ or nerves in the brain etc.
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: Cass Silva 
>>>To: theos-l@yahoogroups .com 
>>>Cc: Theosophy 
>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 2:24 AM
>>>Subject: Theos-World Mystical or Imaginary
>>>
>>>A question. If schitzophrenia is a state of (temporary) possession, how 
>>is it that schizophrenic drugs can control the possessed?
>>>
>>>Cass
>>>
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