Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00445)

There is a lot of hersay in your "proofs" my dear Preethi.
Throw me some serious documentation, and I will perhaps agree.
Alse I am in disagreement with throwing undocumented views about another person, even if I myself should go and do something embarrasing like that.



M. Sufilight


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: preethi muthiah 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 8:52 AM
  Subject: Re: Theos-World What HPB says about Colombs


    Dear MKR,

  Something surprises me a lot about you...thought I would mention it...

  You have been the recipient of my emails with proofs of Mrs RSB's gradual corruption of the atmosphere at Adyar, the complaints that were made and ignored by her solely because those pertained to Mrs Uma Nilakanta, who in addition to being Superintendent of Leadbeater Chambers is also Mrs Burnier's nephew, Nandan Nilakanta's wife, and thus a relation of Mrs Burnier.

  You can't seriously think that Mrs Burnier, practitioner of corruption of the worst kind, can be equated with Madame Blavatsky, who was in fact incorruptible.

  Preethi

  --- On Sat, 25/7/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk> wrote:

  From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@stofanet.dk>
  Subject: Re: Theos-World What HPB says about Colombs
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
  Date: Saturday, 25 July, 2009, 11:05 PM

   

  Dear MKR

  My views are:

  MKR quoted Master:

  "These are the words verbatim, the reply

  beginning with an aphorism from the Book of Precepts:

  ââIf thou findest a hungry Serpent creeping into thy house, seeking for

  food, and, out of fear it should bite thee, instead of offering it milk thou

  turnest it out to suffer and starve, thou turnest away from the Path of

  Compassion. Thus acteth the fainthearted and the selfish.â You know,â"

  Thank you for e-mailing this. You might not now it, but it was very helpful to me to read these words again.

  Yet, we have of course also to state, that we should not worship such Serpents at all costs.

  Too much milk or "milk" will kill the "vermin". And if you attend too much to them and forget the two scorpions in the cellar or attic, you might be in a far greater trouble than you already are. :-)

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  From: Messenger 

  To: theos-talk 

  Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:52 PM

  Subject: Theos-World What HPB says about Colombs

  What HPB says about Colombs

  Colomb affair shook the TS to its roots. HPB has always mentioned that the

  troubles of TS is always not from without but from within. Here is an

  interesting quote regarding helping Colomb.

  âAnd if I am, then surely I would not have been entrusted with such a

  mission unless I had pledged myself irrevocably to the laws of the Ethics,

  Sciences, and Philosophy THEY teach. Come whatever may, I have to abide by

  these laws and rules even in the face of condemnation

  to death. Now, if the law, in common legislature even, holds that no person

  should be condemned before his guilt is proven, or becomes manifest, how

  much more strict must this law be in our Occult Code? Have I the rightââin

  special cases when I see that a person has in him the germs of, or even a

  decided proclivity toward, evil doing, deception, ingratitude, or revenge,

  that, in short, he is not a reliable man or woman; but that, on the other

  hand, he is earnest and sincere, for the time being, in his interest and

  sympathy for Theosophy and Occultism; have I the right, I ask, to deny him

  the chance of becoming a better man, merely out of fear that he may one day

  turn round? I will say more. Knowing, as I do, that no earthly forces

  combined can destroy the T.S. and its truths, even if they can and do, in

  each case, hurt more or less my outward and miserable personality, that

  shell that I am solemnly pledged to use as a buffer of the cause I serve,

  have I the right, think you, out of mere personal cowardice and in

  self-defence, to refuse anyone the chance of profiting by the truths I can

  teach him, and of thereby becoming better? That many are called, but few

  chosen, is something I knew from the beginning; that he who speaks the truth

  is turned out of nine cities, is an old saying; and that the man (and

  especially the woman) who preaches new truths, whether in religion or

  science, is stoned and made a martyr by those to whom they are

  unwelcomeââall this is what I have bargained for, and no more. Let me give

  you an illustration out of real life. When the notorious Madame Coulomb came

  to me in Bombay, with her husband, to ask for bread and shelter, though I

  had met her in Cairo, and knew her to be a treacherous, wicked, and lying

  woman, nevertheless I gave her all she needed, because such was my duty. But

  when, in course of time, I saw she hated me, envied my position and

  influence, and slandered me to my friends while flattering me to my face, my

  human nature revolted. We were very poor then, poorer even in fact than we

  are now, both the Society and ourselves, and to keep two enemies at our

  expense seemed hard. Then I applied to my Guru and Master, who was then at

  three daysâ distance from Bombay, and submitted to his decision whether it

  was right and theosophical to keep two such Serpents in the house; for she,

  at any rate, if not her husband, threatened the whole Society. Would you

  know the answer I received? These are the words verbatim, the reply

  beginning with an aphorism from the Book of Precepts:

  ââIf thou findest a hungry Serpent creeping into thy house, seeking for

  food, and, out of fear it should bite thee, instead of offering it milk thou

  turnest it out to suffer and starve, thou turnest away from the Path of

  Compassion. Thus acteth the fainthearted and the selfish.â You know,â

  went on the message, âthat you are PERSONALLY threatened; you have still to

  learn that SO LONG AS THERE ARE THREE MEN WORTHY OF OUR LORDâS BLESSING IN

  THE THEOSOPHICAL SOCIETYââIT CAN NEVER BE DESTROYED. . . . Your two Karmas

  [herâs and mine] run in two opposite directions. Shall you, out of abject

  fear of that which may come, blend the two [Karmas] and become as she is? .

  . . They are homeless and hungry; shelter and feed them, then, if you would

  not become participant in her Karma.â

  Since then I have acted more than ever on this principle of trying to help

  everyone irrespective of what I personally may have to suffer for it. It is

  not, therefore, the utter incapacity for right discrimination in me, but

  something quite different that compelled me to lay aside all thought of

  possible consequencesâ HPB CW pp 586

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