Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00352)

You are mixing up your soapbox spokespeople, I haven't commented on the demise of Dr Agrawal - however as far as the suspension of our relationship in the words of Doestoevsky, 'what took you so long'

Cass



----- Original Message ----
> From: John Letham <john_letham@msn.com>
> To: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com>; "theos-talk@yahoogroups.com" <theos-talk@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 July, 2009 5:25:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: DR. C V Agrawal
> 
> I continue to be frustrated by the inner pomiticing thay goes in this thread - 
> can we move together to share the eduacation that was removed from our 
> collective upbringing. Much better use of our limited oxygen don't you think
> With 12.22.12 on its way is ther noone out there that agrees the world leaders 
> are trying to talk about the same old mundane things - we are all so much more 
> capabel the the NYT headlines - let's share feelings and move one another to the 
> positive side.
> I have purposely dropped a number of TS respondents from my inbox as their 
> agendas are clearly soapboxes - do you recognize youself Cass 
> Move to the light and make a difference or what's the point!
> JL
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: MKR 
> 
> Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 05:33:50 
> To: 
> Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: DR. C V Agrawal
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> That is interesting and it is indeed very very sad.
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> I did not know that is how things are done in Adyar. When was the policy
> started? It would be interesting for historians to find out.
> 
> When an important key international officer of TS and especially someone who
> was a dedicated long term member passes away, I think it is a basic courtesy
> to let the world know about it, not weeks or months after the event in this
> Internet age. Also, in this part of the world no one reads the Adyar
> Newsletter. Today such notifications can be done for free.
> 
> Death of a dedicated member should not be taken as a simple routine event in
> anyone's life. To get a true perspective, all one has to do is to read the
> early theosophical history.
> 
> When Olcott passed away, the Inner Founders took the unusual step of
> personally showing up at his death bed to convey their gratitude for the
> dedication and hard work he did for the theosophical movement. This has to
> be viewed in the light of the fact that after the 1900 letter, we have never
> heard from any of them till today.
> 
> In today's world, with Internet, information can be distributed at no cost
> and also immediately. Is it not also in the best interests of the TS for
> keeping members updated on all important events taking place in Adyar and
> other National Centers? Such frequent contact with members will foster to
> bring members together. It is the disconnect and secrecy of operations that
> led to the problems starting with last year's election and the followup.
> This environment is not helpful for the health and future of the TS.
> 
> Everyone on this list knows that if Internet was not there, we will today
> have a very different TS especially after the last GC meeting where the
> Ultra Secret disenfranchisement move would have been approved and
> implemented with some of the GC members seizing the TS presidency. Let us be
> grateful for the Internet for its role in protecting TS and let us make use
> of it in establishing and maintaining continuous contact with members around
> the world.
> 
> The incident of not quickly reporting the death of Dr. Agarwal is a black
> eye which will not be forgotten by many members for a long time to come.
> 
> MKR aka Messenger
> 
> visit theosophy.net
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> On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 11:56 PM, preethi muthiah
> yahoo.com>wrote:
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> > MKR,
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> > We generally don't report such things as death etc. on the local
> > Newspapers.. I guess there will be a writeup about Dr Agarwal in the next
> > issue of the Adyar Newsletter, whenever that is due and manages to come out.
> > Helen Jamieson has quite a job getting it out, but of course now she has
> > all-knowing Pedro Oliveira to help her out. So i guess you can wait for the
> > ANL issue.
> >
> > Preethi
> >
> > --- On Mon, 20/7/09, MKR com 
> > wrote:
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> > From: MKR com >
> > Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: DR. C V Agrawal
> > To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
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> > Date: Monday, 20 July, 2009, 7:13 AM
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> > I have just posted a news item both here and at www.theosophy. net. In
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> > India, both spellings of Agarwal is interchangeable as you can find in wiki
> >
> > and that is how his name got spelled differently by me. In the Adyar
> > website
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> > his name is still shown as the Secretary. If a newsrelease had been issued
> >
> > by TS, the local media would have reported it. I did not find any in
> > chennai
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> > when I googled the leading local daily newspaper.
> >
> > MKR aka Messenger
> >
> > www.theosophy. net
> >
> > n Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 2:20 PM, sampsakuukasjarvi <
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> > sampsakuukasjarvi@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > Agarwal, not Agrawal. This is sad news. He was International Secretary
> > for
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> > > only a few months, since March, after Keith Fisher. Now I notice that his
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> > > name doesn't appear as International Secretary in the latest issue of the
> >
> > > Theosophist; there doesn't appear any name.
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> > > How is it possible that the Adyar headquarters doesn't announce this kind
> >
> > > of event? In the International Board of the Theosophical Society (Adyar),
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> > > International Secretary belongs to the four most important members. There
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> > > still is not even a news section on the Adyar web site!
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> > > MKR: I don't see any news on this on www.theosophy. net.
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> > > Sampsa
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> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com , MKR
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> > > wrote:
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> > > > I just learnt that Dr. C V Agrawal, a long time theosophist recently
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> > > passed
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> > > > away. He was a very dedicated member and was the General Secretary of
> > the
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> > > > Indian Section for several years. After retirement as a Professor in
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> > > > Varanasi, he settled down at Adyar and continued to work for TS till he
> >
> > > > passed away. Most recently he was the International Secretary. All of
> > us
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> > > > should be grateful for his long and dedicated service to theosophy and
> >
> > > > Theosophical Society.
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> > > > MKR
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> > > > Visit www.theosophy. net
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