Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00349)

A motive works to 
a) expose the truth or 
b) suppress the truth.

Cass


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>From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.com>
>To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
>Sent: Wednesday, 22 July, 2009 3:32:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: DR. C V Agrawal
>
>  
>Amen.
>
>On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Anand <AnandGholap@ gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> It is not so important what the motives of the person were, who leaked the
>> document. There was a proposal to disenfranchise members and members needed
>> to know it. Motives of the person releasing documents on internet are less
>> important. His motives don't change above important facts. And timely
>> opposition by members prevented the disaster.
>> Best
>> Anand Gholap
>>
>>
>> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>,
>> "robertapimenta26" <robertapimenta26@ ...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Dear Mr.Ramadoss,
>> >
>> > Now we get to the core of things. You say, and from your perspective you
>> are right, that unveiling certain information, if it is for a good cause, is
>> not unethical and permitted. It happens all the time, and yes, that is good.
>> But is this what really happened?
>> >
>> > No, Mr. Ramadoss, this is what didn't happen.
>> >
>> > The person who leaked the proposal certainly didn't act in good faith,
>> but wanted to create more confusion, suggesting that there was an 'ultra'
>> secret conspiracy going on, while that was clearly not the case. There is no
>> evidence of that anywhere. In the legal sense: there was only speech of a
>> proposal subject to vote. The way this leaked proposal was exploited, and
>> later presented on this very site, was unethical and only served one
>> particular party. This bad proposal became a tool in the hands of those who
>> wanted to make the case that the Algeo supporters had a secret agenda, that
>> Algeo & Co wanted to take your voting right away. That Mr. Ramadoss is the
>> unethical part of it. Please do me favor and check all the archives and all
>> the information Mr. Rozman has on his site and check and re-check.
>> >
>> > So to the letter of the law it was an offence, and ethically speaking it
>> was an offence as well, and many, including yourself fell into the trap. It
>> was a brilliant move, I must admit, more than one year after the event we
>> are still talking about it, when can we finally put it to rest Mr. Ramadoss?
>> >
>> > Roberta
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>, MKR
>> <mkr777@> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > There is nothing unethical or illegal or criminal, IMHO. (I have been
>> > > looking into this issue for years after I got burnt years ago by
>> another
>> > > member of TS on this issue!!!)
>> > >
>> > > In the US, everyday, news media discover newsworthy information that
>> > > organizations and even government wants to keep confidential or even
>> secret
>> > > and is distributed to the public by the news media. If that were not
>> the
>> > > case, news media cannot function and citizens' interests protected.
>> > > .
>> > > Here is a very serious policy issue going to the very core of the
>> democratic
>> > > rights of the members world-wide. But for the timely discovery and
>> > > dissemination, I do not know what would be the situation in TS today.
>> One
>> > > can use their imagination very easily.
>> > > .
>> > > Considering the players involved and timing of the move, if I had run
>> into
>> > > the same information I would have done the same to protect the TS.
>> Since no
>> > > money is involved and no trade secrets are involved, it may be criminal
>> in
>> > > an autocratic state like China or North Korea, but not in a democracy
>> like
>> > > USA or India.
>> > > .
>> > > Also but for theos-talk maillist, it would have been kept secret until
>> we
>> > > woke up one day and shocked to learn we have lost our democratic rights
>> for
>> > > ever.
>> > > .
>> > > Even in the case of Dr. Agarwal's death, but for theos-talk, we all
>> would
>> > > continue to be in the dark.
>> > > .
>> > > I once again wish to remind the readers here, when did you see any of
>> the
>> > > leaders connecting with members and interacting with members on
>> Internet. In
>> > > the last more than 15 years, we have seen only two leaders - *Einar
>> > > Adalsteinsson *(deceased General Secretary of Iceland) and Warwick Keys
>> (NZ
>> > > General Secretary). Has anyone asked why? Too busy or too scared to
>> face
>> > > members?
>> > >
>> > > Messenger aka MKR
>> > >
>> > > visit www.theosophy. net
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 9:50 AM, robertapimenta26 <
>> > > robertapimenta26@ > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > > Someone, who was not on the list of adressees, illegally intercepted
>> the
>> > > > document and used it, not by giving it to people Mr. Anand, but by
>> > > > deliberately leaking it, thus causing obvious confusion and anger.
>> This
>> > > > person had great interest in the commotion that came about, and made
>> very
>> > > > smartly use of it. Must I remind you all, that such an action, using
>> > > > confidential documents and or specific information, without
>> permission of
>> > > > the addressee, is a criminal offence?
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>> > >
>> >
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