Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00198)

It isn't finding the wheel.  It's changing a flat tire.
 
Uncle Chuckie
 
 
In a message dated 7/11/2009 2:44:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Mvandertak@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


I agree chuckie:) Let's find out the WHEEL again:)

--- On Sat,  7/11/09, _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com)  
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >  wrote:

From: _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com)  <_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
(mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
Subject:  Re: Theos-World Barking up the wrong tree, as usual
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Date:  Saturday, July 11, 2009, 8:40 AM

Hmmm, let's see.  Ghandi never  faced a real opponent, Stalin would  have 
had him for lunch and  Mother Theresa was a ghoul who fed off the energies  
of 
the  dying.  I don't know what they were teaching but it ain't anything  I  
would want to learn.

I'm saying we need to get away from  the notion of teachers as identifiable 
 
agents  altogether.

Chuck the Heretic


In a message dated 7/10/2009  10:22:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
_silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ (mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com)   writes:

So you are saying that World Teachers are known by their  actions rather  
than their words?  If this is the case one could  argue that Gandhi and  
Mother 
Theresa were world teachers.

I  suppose one can walk with world  teachers or one can walk behind  them.  
 
A spiritual evolved soul is  probably on the  way to being his/her own 
world   
teacher.

Cass

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>From: "__Drpsionic@aol._Dr_ (mailto:_Drpsionic@aol.Drp) _ 
(mailto:_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) ) " 
<__Drpsionic@aol._Dr_ (mailto:_Drpsionic@aol.Drp) _ 
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>To:  _theos-talk@To:  _theosTo:  _th_theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ 
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>Sent:  Friday, 10 July, 2009 2:48:56 PM
>Subject:  Theos-World Barking up the  wrong tree, as  usual
>
>
>
>
>
>Ok. The  World  Teacher thing is fun but the truth is that Theosophist 
have 
>been   flying the wrong carpet on it since the idea floated out of Annie  
and  
>the Bishop's hats. 
>
>First, there really  has never been  an identifiable person who could be 
>considered a  "World Teacher" who  had any serious impact in his lifetime. 
The  
>Buddha was just another  local nutcase and Jesus got himself  killed. So 
>this business about  finding out who the next "World  Teacher" was going 
to 
be 
>makes about  as much sense as trying  to find out who will be the next 
Michael  
>Jackson (in the  hope of aborting him before he can appear) and all the  
fuss  
>over whether it was Krishnamurti or Aleister Crowley or even L.   Ron 
>Hubbard is missing the point.
>
>We can ignore  crooks  like Sai Baba Booey and crazy old Ben Creme for the 
  
>moment.
>
>If there were to be a world teacher, that   individual would not have to 
>appear in public at all. He could  be  totally obscure, sitting in his 
living 
>room, watching  reruns of old  game shows on cable, an putting the 
information  
>directly into the  minds of the people prepared to receive it  without 
them 
>even knowing  that he exists or that the  information, the ideas as it 
were, 
>came  from any source  other than their own minds. The techniques are  
>certainly simple  enough. Anyone can master them in a few days. Which  is 
why the  
>dugpa stuff is so silly. There is nothing they can do that   anyone else 
>cannot do and probably are.
>
>It is  obvious  that the idea of a World Teacher, wandering the earth  
>spreading  teaching to the hungry masses is a simple failure to  
understand 
how  
>information can be spread. It is from a  mindset locked into archaic  and 
>fundamentally clumsy means of  communication, voice, the written  word, 
personal 
>appearance,  even video. There is no need for any of  that and one wonders 
>why  those called masters of the wisdom, who  frankly do not, in  
retrospect, 
>seem to have been masters of much of  anything  but falling off their 
flying 
>carpets, would not have  realized  that. 
>
>The search is a waste of time and energy.  If there  really is a world 
>teacher running around loose  somewhere, he has no  need to be found, no 
desire to 
>be  public. That would just get in the  way and be a  distraction.
>
>It is time to face reality and forget  all  the nonsense that has been 
>written in the past by people who   either did not know what they were 
talking 
>about or who had a  vested  interest in public ignorance.
>
>Chuck the   heretic
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