Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00148)

Whatever it was, it flew in the face of observable fact even in his own  
time.  
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 7/9/2009 3:04:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
Mvandertak@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


They all left Kali yuga anyway, sine only few are here he said  
himself...maybe motivation was cowardness?

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com)  
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >  wrote:

From: _Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com)  <_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ 
(mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
Subject:  Re: Theos-World Occult Secrets
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Date:  Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:43 AM

Master KH was spouting nonsense in that  and one wonders what his 
motivation 
was in doing so.

Chuck the  Heretic


In a message dated 7/8/2009 12:26:42 P.M. Central Daylight  Time,  
_mkr777@gmail.mkr_ (mailto:mkr777@gmail.com)   writes:

Mahatma KH explains very clearly the issue of occult secrets  and  the
essential transformation needed in the neophyte and that no  amount of  
hocus
pocus will work. It is hoped that those concerned  with secrets may  get a
better picture after reading  it.
.
MKR
.
>From Letter #49  - Mahatma Letters to A P  Sinnett:
.

Once we are upon the topic, I  wish you would  impress upon your London
friends some wholesome truths that  they are  but too apt to forget, even,
when they have been told of them over   and over again. The Occult Science 
is
not one, in which secrets can  be  communicated of a sudden, by a written or
even verbal  communication. If so,  all the "Brothers" should have to do,
would be  to publish a Hand-book of  the art which might be taught in 
schools
as  grammar is. It is the common  mistake of people that we willingly  wrap
ourselves and our powers in  mystery -- that we wish to keep our  knowledge 
to
ourselves, and of our own  will refuse -- "wantonly  and deliberately" to
communicate it. The truth is  that till the  neophyte attains to the 
condition
necessary for that degree  of  Illumination to which, and for which, he is
entitled and fitted, most  if  not all of the Secrets are incommunicable. 
The
receptivity must be  equal to  the desire to instruct. The illumination must
come from  within. Till then  no hocus pocus of incantations, or mummery  of
appliances, no metaphysical  lectures or discussions, no  self-imposed 
penance
can give it. All these are  but means to an  end, and all we can do is to
direct the use of such means  as have  been empirically found by the
experience of ages to conduce to the   required object. And this was and has
been no secret for thousands of   years. Fasting, meditation, chastity of
thought, word, and deed;  silence  for certain periods of time to enable
nature herself to speak  to him who  comes to her for information; 
government
of the animal  passions and  impulses; utter unselfishness of intention, the
use of  certain incense and  fumigations for physiological purposes, have  
been
published as the means  since the days of Plato and  Iamblichus in the West,
and since the far  earlier times of our Indian  Rishis. How these must be
complied with to suit  each individual  temperament is of course a matter 
for
his own experiment  and the  watchful care of his tutor or Guru. Such is in
fact part of his   course of discipline, and his Guru or initiator can but
assist him with  his  experience and will power but can do no more until the
last and  Supreme  initiation. I am also of opinion that few candidates
imagine  the degree of  inconvenience -- nay suffering and harm to himself  
--
the said initiator  submits to for the sake of his pupil. The  peculiar
physical, moral, and  intellectual conditions of neophytes  and Adepts alike
vary much, as anyone  will easily understand; thus,  in each case, the
instructor has to adapt his  conditions to those of  the pupil, and the 
strain
is terrible for to achieve  success we  have to bring ourselves into a full
rapport with the subject  under  training. And as, the greater the powers of
the Adept the less he is   in sympathy with the natures of the profane who
often come to him  saturated  with the emanations of the outside world, 
those
animal  emanations of the  selfish, brutal, crowd that we so dread --  the
longer he was separated from  that world and the purer he has  himself 
become,
the more difficult the  self-imposed task. Then --  knowledge, can only be
communicated gradually;  and some of the  highest secrets -- if actually
formulated even in your well  prepared  ear -- might sound to you as insane
gibberish, notwithstanding all   the sincerity of your present assurance 
that
"absolute trust defies   misunderstanding.  misunderstanding.   misunder
reticence.
.
âxxxâ

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