Theos-Talk Archives (July 2009 Message tt00142)

Chuck is diving deep now, guys:)

--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com> wrote:

From: Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 6:38 AM

There were no earthlings or martians. It is all an illusion of Maya.
 
Chuck the heretic
 
 
In a message dated 7/8/2009 11:02:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


I thought earthlings preceded martians?  Although I am very hazy on this 
subject - read years ago that in the next manvantara humans evolve to 
Venetians, martians evolve to earthlings and that earth is in the middle 
between mars and venus?

Cass

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>To:Â _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>Sent:Â Thursday, 9 July, 2009 1:30:10 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy
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>Cass, Morten, 
>I seem to recall that Blavatsky made mention of a small residual of 
Intelligences remained upon Mars from the Original species that had been there 
and moved on due to the Mars Globe cycle. 
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>John 
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>---- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Cass Silva"Â <silva_cass@silva_cass> 
>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2009 7:08:44 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
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>Do aliens live on Mars - no - Martians live on Mars, and probably like us 
enjoy the location, especially if they live by a hot spring. lol They 
would need anti-freeze should they wish to holiday on earth! 
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>Cass 
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>>From: Morten Nymann Olesen < global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk > 
>>To:Â theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Thursday, 9 July, 2009 2:21:54Â AM 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
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>>Â 
>>Interesting. 
>>Some of them must, as I see it, be considered to have been created by 
ordinary humans, because their creation are imprecise and angles incorrect or 
non-symmetrical, where they aught to be so. 
>> 
>>I did however like the Jelly-Fish at the bottom. 
>> 
>>I remineded me of the following from H. P. Blavatsky:Â 
>>"We speak of the inhabitants of other planets and imagine that if they 
are men, i. e., thinking entities, they must be as we are. The fancy of 
poets and painters and sculptors never fails to represent even the angels as a 
beautiful copy of manâ plus wings. We say that all this is an error and a 
delusion; because, if on this little earth alone one finds such a diversity 
in its flora, fauna and mankind âfrom the sea-weed to the cedar of Lebanon, 
from the jelly-fish to the elephant, from the Bushman and negro to the 
Apollo Belvedereâalter the conditions cosmic and planetary, and there must be 
as a result quite a different flora, fauna and mankind. The same laws will 
fashion quite a different set of things and beings even on this our plane, 
including in it all our planets. How much more different then must be 
external nature in other Solar systems, and how foolish is it to judge of other 
stars and worlds and human beings by our own, as physical 
>science does! " 
>>Â 
>>Did someone say that Aliens live on Mars? 
>>Â 
>>M. Sufilight 
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>>----- Original Message -----Â 
>>From: Augoeides-222@ comcast.net 
>>To:Â theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:55 PMÂ 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
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>>Morten, 
>>Here is a link for the latest Crop Circles which have a scientific 
message some alledge:Â 
>> 
>>>>> _http://www.earthfil_ (http://www.earthfil/) es.com/news. 
php?ID=1578& category= Environment< << 
>>Â 
>>And because the message is about the Sun's activity here are the Solar 
Observatory SOHO links: 
>> 
>>The Solar and Heliospheric Home Page (SOHO) 
>> 
>>>>> _http://sohowww._ (http://sohowww./)ÂÂÂnascom.nasa. gov/home. html<<< 
>> 
>>The Latest SOHO Images 
>> 
>>>>> _http://sohowww._ (http://sohowww./)Â nascom.nasa. gov/data/ 
realtime-Â images.html< << 
>> 
>>John 
>>Â 
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Morten Nymann Olesen" <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> 
>>To:Â theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 9:21:39 AMÂ GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
>>Subject: Re: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
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>>Yes. The links says the following: 
>>"19th century esotericism is seen by some as completely secularised. 
Alchemy, magic, astrology and other elements of traditional esotericism had 
been thoroughly integrated with aspects of modern culture, including the 
search for causal laws, evolutionism, psychology and the study of religions. It 
reached its clearest form in the ideas of Helena Blavatsky, a Russian 
medium who founded the Theosophical Society with Henry Olcott in New York in 
1875. The Society aimed to fuse elements of Eastern and Western traditions in 
an evolutionary type of spiritualism. It had three main aims: 
>>1. "To form a nucleus of the Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without 
distinction of race, creed, caste or colour. 
>>2. "To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy and 
science. 
>>3. "To investigate unexplained laws of Nature and the powers latent in 
man." 
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>>- - - 
>>Â 
>>Someone might want to throw an e-mail to the Vatican telling them, that 
the above is not entirely true. 
>> 
>>The three main aims as they were formulated in the Constitutions just 
before H. P. Blavatsky died was: 
>> 
>>"The objects of the Theosophical Society are: First. - To form the 
nucleus of a Universal Brotherhood of Humanity, without distinction of race, 
creed, sex, caste or colour. Second. - To promote the study of Aryan and other 
Eastern literatures, religions, philosophies and sciences, and to 
demonstrate their importance to Humanity. Third. - To investigate unexplained laws 
of Nature and the psychic powers latent in man. "Â 
>>(The Theosophist - January 1891) 
>> 
>>- - -Â 
>> 
>>Further one aught to realize that the original aims when The 
Theosophical Society was formed had the following somewhat different words, which the 
Vatican presumably dislikes and therefore omits in its official Internet 
article: 
>> 
>>"The objects of the society are, to collect and diffuse a knowledge of 
the laws which govern the universe." 
>>... 
>>"Preamble of the T.S. 
>>Â 
>>Dated October 30, 1875; reprinted in The Theosophical Forum, September 
1947, pp. 515-18 
>>The title of the Theosophical Society explains the objects and desires 
of its founders: they seek "to obtain knowledge of the nature and attributes 
of the Supreme Power and of the higher spirits by the aid of physical 
processes." In other words, they hope, that by going deeper than modern science 
has hitherto done, into the esoteric philosophies of ancient times, they 
may be enabled to obtain, for themselves and other investigators, proof of 
the existence of an "Unseen Universe," the nature of its inhabitants, if 
such there be, and the laws which govern them and their relations with 
mankind. 
>> 
>>Whatever may be the private opinions of its members, the society has no 
dogmas to enforce, no creed to disseminate. It is formed neither as a 
Spiritualistic schism, nor to serve as the foe or friend of any sectarian or 
philosophic body. Its only axiom is the omnipotence of truth, its only creed a 
profession of unqualified devotion to its discovery and propagation. In 
considering the qualifications of applicants for membership, it knows neither 
race, sex, color, country nor creed. 
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>>That all the members of a society should acquire an equal degree of 
knowledge within the same period of time is not to be expected. Knowledge is 
always progressive, and proportional to natural capability and susceptibility 
to intellectual impression. Even the most intelligent and the most 
perseveringly studious must labor in order to obtain or attain. To all, however, 
are alike indispensable, rectitude of principle and conduct, and love of 
truth and wisdom. No student can win his diploma without undertaking a long 
course of study and proving a good character; and every handicraftsman has to 
serve his apprenticeship before he can be journeyman or master. So 
theosophy, which claims to teach the vital points of science and art, exacts from 
its adepts an assiduity of purpose, a catholicity of mind, an unselfish 
devotion, an unflinching courage and perseverance, and a purity of life and 
thought commensurate with the nature of their self-imposed task, before 
>admitting them into the arcana of nature, and intrusting them with powers 
not shared by meaner souls. 
>> 
>>The founders of the Theosophical Society begin their work with a solemn 
conviction of its importance. They do not undervalue the difficulties, 
intrinsic and extrinsic, of the task. Their work is that which the 
Spiritualists have neglected, the Materialists have not attempted, and the Theologians 
have misunderstood and undervalued. Starting with a hope, rather than a 
conviction, of the attainment of their desires, they are animated solely by an 
earnest purpose to learn the truth, wheresoever it may be found; and 
esteem no obstacles so serious, no pains so great, as to excuse them for 
relinquishing it. 
>> 
>>They look in vain to the Church for such evidence of immortality as will 
satisfy the exactions of a fearless reason; in vain to her opponents for 
an explanation of the preterhuman experiences of mankind, from the earliest 
periods. The Spiritualists, who profess to be in constant relations with 
the departed, are unable to agree upon a system of philosophy. Thus the 
longing of the race for a practical demonstration of its future existence goes 
unsatisfied; the laws of intercommunication between the visible and the 
invisible worlds are not accurately defined; and the problem of the two 
eternities which bound this life remains unsolved, despite a multitude of churches 
and academies." .......and more....... 
>> 
>> _http://www.theosoci_ (http://www.theosoci/)ÂÂÂety.org/pasadena 
/gfkforum/ ourdir.htm 
>> 
>>M. Sufilight says: 
>>So the emphasis upon Aryan and Eastern literature aught not to be rooted 
out just because the Vatican and its useful puppets have the aim to 
promote the idea. 
>> 
>>There is still today a great abyss between the Eastern doctrines on 
wisdom and the western ones on dogmas and blind beliefs. And this we will have 
to recognize. - Some have sought to build a bridge between them and calling 
such a teaching a Doctrine of the Heart. Others have tried to put their 
own versions forward. But a search after Truth can, we claim, never be based 
on a blind belief where rest of reason is promoted and the possible 
development of Wisdom is ignored. And the Wisdom Teachings operates through groups 
and organisations carrying various names and not only those who pride 
themselves by the use of the name "theosophical" . And we will know them on 
their fruits, whether they promote fanatical views or promote an honest search 
after the truth without multicultural religiously-Â related bigotry. 
>> 
>>M. Sufilight 
>>Â 
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: Anand 
>>To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com 
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:21 AM 
>>Subject: Theos-World Roman Catholic Church on New Age/Theosophy 
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>>I got this link just now. 
>>Â _http://www.vatican._ (http://www.vatican./)Â va/roman_ 
curia/pontifical _councils/ interelg/ documents/ rc_pc_interelg_ doc_20030203_ new-age_en. 
html 
>>Best 
>>Anand Gholap 
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