Re: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
Jun 29, 2009 09:30 PM
by Drpsionic
Does that mean we can hang them all from the nearest yardarm?
Chuck the Heretic
In a message dated 6/29/2009 8:30:17 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:
Hey Yarda is an anagram and petname of Koot Hoomi for Adyar - lol
Cass
>
>From: "_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) "
<_Drpsionic@aol.Drp_ (mailto:Drpsionic@aol.com) >
>To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com)
>Sent: Monday, 29 June, 2009 3:09:52 PM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
>
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>
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>
>If they do it might be with flamethrowers.
>
>Chuck the Heretic
>
>
>In a message dated 6/28/2009 8:32:23 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>silva_cass@silva_cass@<WBR>yahoo.
>
>Perhaps Adyar is getting ready to announce that the Masters have returned
>to Adyar????
>
>lol
>
>Cass
>
>>
>>From: robertapimenta26 <_robertapimenta26@ robertapi_
>(mailto:robertapim(mailto:robertapim<>
>>To: _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-To: _theos-talk@ yahoog
>>Sent: Monday, 29 June, 2009 7:28:09 AM
>>Subject: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Mr. Keith Fisher,
>>
>>Your very bold statements have made a deep impression on me, and the
rest
>of the (theosophical) world.
>>
>>I respect you, hold no grievances against you and although we've never
>met, I am certain that you are a good and honest man.
>>
>>Am very intrigued about your remark concerning 'the spiritual forces
>taking control of the situation' though. Next to that, you really puzzle
me
>with this 'head on the block', phrase, mine, probably be next.
>>
>>Is it possible that your head was there first of all, I mean before Mrs.
>Preethi's or mine, because you really seem to have lost yours...
>>
>>Unfortunately, if that is not enough, you want me to return to Spain to
>'fight bulls'. *(???)
>>
>>Dear Mr. Keith Fisher, I haven't got a clue what you are talking
>about...(??about...(
>>
>>Roberta
>>
>>--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "keith_fisher@ ..." <exsecy@...>
>wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Roberta
>>>
>>> It would be nice to think that you wasn't misinformed, Adyar needs
>>> to be purged of all those who are prejudice or hold a grudge against
>>> the duly elected President before regeneration can start. However,
>>> spiritual forces seem to be taking control of the situation now.
>>>
>>> Sadly, Preethi has placed her own head on the block and you will
>>> probably be next, you could go back to Spain and fight a few bulls!
>>>
>>> I wish you well
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "robertapimenta26"
><robertapimenta26@ > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dear Mr. Fisher,
>>> >
>>> > Good to hear from you. Time will tell, Mr. Fisher, only time will
>tell if I was totally misinformed.
>>> >
>>> > Roberta
>>> >
>>> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "keith_fisher@ " <exsecy@> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > Dear Roberta
>>> > >
>>> > > Although you are claiming to be a non-member, you seem
>>> > > to have knowledge not only of the Adyar TS and estate, but
>>> > > also the ES and Co-M as well. However, I think you have
>>> > > been totally misinformed on both of the points you have raised,
>>> > > in the six months I was at Adyar, until the end of February this
>>> > > year, I witnessed an enormous amount of maintenance being
>>> > > carried out on the estate.
>>> > >
>>> > > Large buildings like the Blavatsky Bungalow and the
>>> > > Administration Building had been completely renovated with
>>> > > new roofing and toilet facilities. Many of the other smaller
>>> > > buildings were in the process of renovation or repairs and the
>>> > > General Manager was run off his feet trying to keep up with
>>> > > the work of overseeing the contractors.
>>> > >
>>> > > There was also major works being undertaken by the Garden
>>> > > Department, mechanization had started to be introduced and
>>> > > vast areas of scrub had been cleared, the coconut palms had
>>> > > been mulched with crushed coconut husks and drip watering
>>> > > systems were being installed. Although this is an extensive
>>> > > estate the Garden Department seemed to be gradually making
>>> > > improvements throughout the compound, and the whole of the
>>> > > estate was visibly greatly improved.
>>> > >
>>> > > On your second point, although I worked closely with the
>>> > > President for six months I was never aware of any secret
>>> > > attempt to `do away with' any member who was prejudice
>>> > > against her. In fact it was quite the opposite, out of the three
>>> > > Adyar workers who interfered with the Presidential election
>>> > > by having the audacity to write a letter to the General Council
>>> > > members advising them that the President was not fit and
>>> > > should not be nominated, only one of them was asked to leave.
>>> > >
>>> > > Another of the workers left of her own volition eight months
>>> > > later, and one of them is still allowed to be a resident on the
>>> > > Adyar estate, enjoying spacious, private accommodation at a
>>> > > near peppercorn rental, in a tranquil setting amid beautiful trees
>>> > > and tropical greenery, backing onto the Adyar river.
>>> > >
>>> > > I would think this is a good indication of the President's grace,
>>> > > and her compassion for those who have plotted against her.
>>> > >
>>> > > Keith
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "robertapimenta26"
><robertapimenta26@ > wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Dear Mr. Rozman,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > The silence from the International President (Adyar) is
>significant, but not surprising. Some individuals are doing the talking
for her,
>like Mr. Pedro Oliveira, who according to some messages I received is
>travelling through Europe at the moment. There are alarming stories going
round and
>they point to two main issues: 1) the adminstration of the Adyar estate
>itself, the contribution of Mrs. Preethi was an example and 2) a secret
>attempt by the International President to do away with all those who
believe
>that she cannot fulfil her office as International President any longer.
Mind
>you, these are, for as far as I am concerned only rumours, don't want to
>speculate, but does any of you contributors know more about this?
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Roberta
>>> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, "Anton Rozman"
><anton_rozman@ > wrote:
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Cass,
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > We are all missing the "word of the President", addressing
this
>critical situation, proposing solutions, indicating the way out. Is not
>this silence possibly crying out that maybe she is not in a position to
speak
>on her own any more?
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Best regards,
>>> > > > > Anton
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ >
>wrote:
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > I don't hear any cries of helplessness coming from Ms
Burnier
>unless of course she is hoping that the bad publicity will go away?
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > Cass
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >From: Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@ >
>>> > > > > > >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>> > > > > > >Sent: Sunday, 21 June, 2009 2:45:39 PM
>>> > > > > > >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >Dear Cass,
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >Every patient wants to be cured. Resistance is just sign of
>deep helplessness and is actually cry for help. The only remedy is truth
>of facts which can be very painful, so that some would rather die than
>expose it. But in this situation we are all patients and we can cure
ourselves
>only with mutual help and humility. No one is above the situation, no one
is
>without guilt. We all allowed it to happen, some more and some less. We
are
>all in the same boat.
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >Best regards,
>>> > > > > > >Anton
>>> > > > > > >
>>> > > > > > >--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva
<silva_cass@
>...> wrote:
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> Anton, the patient must want to be cured before any
>healing can take place!
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> Cass
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >From: preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ ...>
>>> > > > > > >> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>> > > > > > >> >Sent: Saturday, 20 June, 2009 6:29:35 PM
>>> > > > > > >> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >Hi MKR,
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >If i could put it more appropriately cleansing is
needed
>overall, but instead of harping on about the "secret disenfranchising
>attempt made by some of the General Secretaries -- which i understand was
just a
>suggestion rather than a finalized move -- one needs to look at the
>reasons why this suggestion was even thought about". In treating a
disease, one
>can either look at the symptoms or at the root cause.
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >If you start looking at the root cause of this whole
>problem you will, willy-nilly, trace it back to the ineffective
leadership of
>the current international president (which she has been over the past 29
>years), Mrs Radha Burnier and the policies she uses to "rule".
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >One will also notice, if one is perceptive, that the
>attempt from Mrs Burnier's lobbyists has always been to look at the
symptoms
>and focus attention there, rather than to look at the root cause of this
>whole division in the TS.
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >One can then look at some of these things deeply and
>question them or ponder over them: (a) What is all this fear doing in an
>organization that has altruism as its ideal; (b) Why does the leader of
this
>organization initiate gossip and why has she never thought about the
>deep-seated effects this kind of behaviour will generate among members;
(c) One would
>expect the head of a spiritual organization to have insight into human
>nature. Why has this aspect of Mrs Burnier never found expression even
though
>opportunities for this insight and resultant understanding were present
>throughout her career as president of the TS, including during the
elections
>and its aftermath? and (d) since we are all supposed to be intelligent,
>thinking, rational individuals, why, even when the corruption rampant in
Adyar
>is brought to everyone's attention, are we allowing Mrs Burnier to rule
>our hearts and minds?
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >Preethi
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >--- On Sat, 20/6/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com> wrote:
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com>
>>> > > > > > >> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>>> > > > > > >> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>>> > > > > > >> >Date: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 1:16 AM
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >Cleansing is needed more urgently in the West, IMHO.
>Have we forgotten last
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >year's failed ultra secret attempt to disenfranchise all
>of us and handdful
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >of GC members seize power to "appoint" the president,
>thus make the
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >president a puppet in their hands?
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >MKR
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >Visit www.theosophy. net
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >On 6/16/09, preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com>
>wrote:
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> Hi all,
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> Am glad we are looking into cleansing here. Cleansing
>is what the TS and
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> especially its heart, Adyar, requires today...and it
>is we who need to do
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> the cleansing... We members of the Theosophical
>Society. Would you like to
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> join me?
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> Preethi
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> --- On Mon, 15/6/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo.
>com<silva_cass% 40yahoo.com> >
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> wrote:
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com <silva_cass%
>40yahoo.com> >
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk%
>40yahoogroups. com>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 7:06 AM
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> Only that the smoke from sage cleanses negative
>spirits?
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
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>>> > > > > > >> >> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >To: theos-talk <theos-talk@ yahoogro ups.com>
>>> > > > > > >> >
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>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >Sent: Monday, 15 June, 2009 1:17:44 AM
>>> > > > > > >> >
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>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >Subject: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
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>>> > > > > > >> >> >With all the bad entities operating around us and
>perhaps against us as
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >well, either by themselves, or through some
>unsuspecting deluded victims,
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >HSO mentioned that before he and HPB took residence
>anywhere, it was
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >approved by a Brother or Brothers and it was cleansed
>of undesirable
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >influences etc. before they moved in. When the
>cleansing was done, the
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> place
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >was vacated of everyone. It has been reported that
>similar cleansing was
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >done by Jiddu Krishnamurti.
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >>
>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >.
>>> > > > > > >> >
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>>> > > > > > >> >
>>> > > > > > >> >> >Has anyone read more about the issue of cleansing?
>>> > > > > > >> >
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