Theos-Talk Archives (June 2009 Message tt00658)

I find that there ever will be a great difference between assumptions, prejudice and exaggerated hysterical conspiracy thinking on the one hand AND then clear evidence on the other.

But of course a good student will cover all eventualities in his or her framework, while aiming at the view: Se Good, Do Good, Be Good. And the chorus sand: - do-be-do-be-do see?



  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: robert_b_macd 
  To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 1:08 AM
  Subject: Theos-World Re: Dugpas - Update






  There is also a philosophical side to the whole issue of dugpas. It could be argued that by deriding and downplaying the reality of the dugpa, you are at the same time you are deriding and downplaying the existence of the White Brotherhood.

  They are the polar opposites of the one underlying reality, Occult Wisdom. The one uses it selfishly, the other selflessly. As the dugpa lives in the shadows, there is advantage to him to downplay the reality of his existence. It might be argued that in the same way the mainstream media laughs at "Conspiracy-Nuts", some theosophists have come to deride the theosophist who believes in the reality of dugpas and sees their hand in the current impotency of the Theosophical Society.

  Anton's experience could be the exception that proves the rule.

  --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
  >
  > I am sorry to hear about your experience.
  > .
  > On the other hand, due to the availability of Internet, the issue of Dugpas
  > has been widely discussed on this list and the social site and the
  > discussions archives are available for posterity for anyone who is
  > interested in the issue. Without the Internet this would have never
  > happened.
  > .
  > Theosophists, given the freedom and independence to analyze and think for
  > themselves would be making judgment on the issue. Let us see what further
  > feedback we get from others on this issue.
  > .
  > MKR
  > .
  > Visit the social network at theosophy.net
  > 
  > 
  > On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:42 AM, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@...>wrote:
  > 
  > >
  > >
  > > Dear Ramadoss,
  > >
  > > You know, the head of the Lodge here in Koper is really an expert on this
  > > dugpa issue. She has more than 60 years of experience in chasing dugpas and
  > > their victims. In last twenty years she was able to detect signs of dark
  > > forces in great majority of the Lodge members and to develop most efficient
  > > method to keep the Lodge clean of malevolent dugpa influence. She simply
  > > alienated every member she discovered infected. Out of about forty members
  > > who through time joined the Lodge less than ten remained, but Lodge is
  > > clean.
  > >
  > > And as I was equally expelled from the Lodge by this dugpa expert I am
  > > probably attested dugpa victim and I don't know if there is any chance that
  > > I can change my fate. I feel that she often tried long distance healing on
  > > me but I don't know if there was any success made - probably not as I didn't
  > > get the invitation to come back. Therefore I am afraid that I am hopeless
  > > case and that it is not worth losing words on me.
  > >
  > > When you brought for the first time this dugpa issue forward I tried to
  > > present some views but most probably they didn't bear any relevance
  > > whatsoever, therefore I renounced to further address this problem.
  > >
  > > Maybe alleged sorry membership situation in the West is just due to
  > > increased dugpa activity and prompt reaction of experienced TS members, so
  > > that the situation actually isn't that bad as it seems but only cleansed
  > > from these negative influences.
  > >
  > > Best regards,
  > > Anton
  > >
  > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
  > > <mkr777@> wrote:
  > > >
  > > > Some interesting discussion on Dugpas is going on at www.theosnet.com.
  > > You
  > > > may want to visit the social website.
  > > >
  > > > A search of theosophical literature will reveal that not much can be
  > > found.
  > > > There have also not been much discussion from the "organizational
  > > > theosophist" who seem to be terrified of talking about it, even though
  > > you
  > > > fear only what you do not understand.
  > > >
  > > > The current interest has come about from the belief of several
  > > theosophists
  > > > that Dugpas may have a hand in the developments since early last year and
  > > > the continuing crisis.
  > > >
  > > > MKR
  > > >
  > > > .
  > > >
  > > >
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  > > >
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