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Re: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences

Jun 24, 2009 10:30 PM
by preethi muthiah


Or perhaps Radha Burnier is now so steeped in the darkness of her deeds that she no longer sees the light enough for her to shed it on fellow members of the TS. Sad state for someone to be in, but she had the choice to choose the light all along...

The Buddha in one of his discourses (i don't know which one) said that compassion is not always the friendly feeling. It is also using a stick correctly applied to bring a lesson to a soul in need of that beating. This was also stated by the Vietnamese monk Thich Naht Hanh and most recently by HH the Dalai Lama in a lecture of his i attended at the Madras University. Well, that is the stick being applied to her since the recent elections and especially since 24 May 2009.

Preethi

--- On Tue, 23/6/09, Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com> wrote:

From: Drpsionic@aol.com <Drpsionic@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of bad influences
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 23 June, 2009, 9:58 AM











    
            
            


      
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In a message dated 6/22/2009 8:13:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  

silva_cass@yahoo. com writes:



What is stopping her?  She could clear this whole matter up with an  

explanation.



Cass



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>From: Anton Rozman <_anton_rozman@ anton_roz_ 

(mailto:anton_rozman@ yahoo.com) >

>To:  _theos-talk@ yahoogrotheos- t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com) 

>Sent:  Monday, 22 June, 2009 5:31:43 PM

>Subject: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of  bad  influences

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>Cass,

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>We  are all missing the "word of the President", addressing this critical  

situation, proposing solutions, indicating the way out. Is not this silence 

 possibly crying out that maybe she is not in a position to speak on her 

own  any more?

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>Best regards,

>Anton

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>--- In  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...>  wrote:

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>> I don't hear any cries of helplessness coming  from Ms Burnier unless of 

course she is hoping that the bad publicity will go  away?

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>> Cass

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>> >From: Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@ ...>

>>  >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com

>> >Sent: Sunday, 21 June,  2009 2:45:39 PM

>> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad  influences

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>> >Dear Cass,

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>>  >Every patient wants to be cured. Resistance is just sign of deep  

helplessness and is actually cry for help. The only remedy is truth of facts  

which can be very painful, so that some would rather die than expose it. But  

in this situation we are all patients and we can cure ourselves only with  

mutual help and humility. No one is above the situation, no one is without  

guilt. We all allowed it to happen, some more and some less. We are all in 

the  same boat.

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>> >Best regards,

>>  >Anton

>> >

>> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com,  Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...> wrote:

>> >>

>>  >> Anton, the patient must want to be cured before any healing can take 

 place!

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>> >> Cass

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>> >> >From: preethi muthiah  <seeker_preethi@ ...>

>> >> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro  ups.com

>> >> >Sent: Saturday, 20 June, 2009 6:29:35  PM

>> >> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad  influences

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>>  >> >Hi MKR,

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>> >> >If i  could put it more appropriately cleansing is needed overall, 

but instead of  harping on about the "secret disenfranchising attempt made by 

some of the  General Secretaries -- which i understand was just a 

suggestion rather than a  finalized move -- one needs to look at the reasons why this 

suggestion was  even thought about". In treating a disease, one can either 

look at the  symptoms or at the root cause.

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>> >>  >If you start looking at the root cause of this whole problem you 

will,  willy-nilly, trace it back to the ineffective leadership of the current 

 international president (which she has been over the past 29 years), Mrs 

Radha  Burnier and the policies she uses to "rule".

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>> >> >One will also notice, if one is perceptive, that  the attempt from 

Mrs Burnier's lobbyists has always been to look at the  symptoms and focus 

attention there, rather than to look at the root cause of  this whole division 

in the TS.

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>> >>  >One can then look at some of these things deeply and question them 

or  ponder over them: (a) What is all this fear doing in an organization 

that has  altruism as its ideal; (b) Why does the leader of this organization 

initiate  gossip and why has she never thought about the deep-seated effects 

this kind  of behaviour will generate among members; (c) One would expect 

the head of a  spiritual organization to have insight into human nature. Why  

has this  aspect of Mrs Burnier never found expression even though 

opportunities for  this insight and resultant understanding were present throughout 

her career as  president of the TS, including during the elections and its 

aftermath? and (d)  since we are all supposed to be intelligent, thinking, 

rational individuals,  why, even when the corruption rampant in Adyar is 

brought to everyone's  attention, are we allowing Mrs Burnier to rule our hearts 

and  minds?

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>> >> >Preethi

>>  >> >

>> >> >--- On Sat, 20/6/09, MKR  <mkr777@gmail. com> wrote:

>> >> >

>>  >> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com>

>> >>  >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences

>> >>  >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com

>> >> >Date: Saturday,  20 June, 2009, 1:16 AM

>> >> >

>> >>  >Cleansing is needed more urgently in the West, IMHO. Have we 

forgotten  last

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>> >> >year's failed ultra  secret attempt to disenfranchise all of us and 

handdful

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>> >> >of GC members seize power to "appoint" the  president, thus make the

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>> >>  >president a puppet in their hands?

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>>  >> >MKR

>> >> >

>> >> >Visit  www.theosophy. net

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>> >> >On  6/16/09, preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com> wrote:

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>> >> >> Hi  all,

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>> >> >> Am glad we are looking into  cleansing here. Cleansing is what the 

TS and

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>> >> >> especially its heart, Adyar, requires  today...and it is we who 

need to do

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>>  >> >> the cleansing... We members of the Theosophical Society.  Would 

you like to

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>> >> >> join  me?

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>> >> >> Preethi

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>>  >> >> --- On Mon, 15/6/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo.  

com<silva_cass% 40yahoo.com> >

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>> >> >> From: Cass  Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com <silva_cass% 

40yahoo.com>  >

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>> >> >> Subject: Re:  Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences

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>>  >> >> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk%  40yahoogroups. com>

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>> >> >>  Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 7:06 AM

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