Theos-Talk Archives (June 2009 Message tt00509)

Radha has trouble thinking of explanations.  Radha sometimes has  trouble 
thinking of what time it is.
 
Chuck the heretic
 
 
In a message dated 6/22/2009 8:13:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
silva_cass@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


What is stopping her?  She could clear this whole matter up with an  
explanation.

Cass

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>From: Anton Rozman <_anton_rozman@anton_roz_ 
(mailto:anton_rozman@yahoo.com) >
>To:  _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>Sent:  Monday, 22 June, 2009 5:31:43 PM
>Subject: Theos-World Re: Cleansing of  bad  influences
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>Cass,
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>We  are all missing the "word of the President", addressing this critical  
situation, proposing solutions, indicating the way out. Is not this silence 
 possibly crying out that maybe she is not in a position to speak on her 
own  any more?
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>Best regards,
>Anton
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>--- In  theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...>  wrote:
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>> I don't hear any cries of helplessness coming  from Ms Burnier unless of 
course she is hoping that the bad publicity will go  away?
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>> Cass
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>> >From: Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@ ...>
>>  >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>> >Sent: Sunday, 21 June,  2009 2:45:39 PM
>> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad  influences
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>> >Dear Cass,
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>>  >Every patient wants to be cured. Resistance is just sign of deep  
helplessness and is actually cry for help. The only remedy is truth of facts  
which can be very painful, so that some would rather die than expose it. But  
in this situation we are all patients and we can cure ourselves only with  
mutual help and humility. No one is above the situation, no one is without  
guilt. We all allowed it to happen, some more and some less. We are all in 
the  same boat.
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>> >Best regards,
>>  >Anton
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>> >--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com,  Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...> wrote:
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>>  >> Anton, the patient must want to be cured before any healing can take 
 place!
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>> >> Cass
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>> >> >From: preethi muthiah  <seeker_preethi@ ...>
>> >> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro  ups.com
>> >> >Sent: Saturday, 20 June, 2009 6:29:35  PM
>> >> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad  influences
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>>  >> >Hi MKR,
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>> >> >If i  could put it more appropriately cleansing is needed overall, 
but instead of  harping on about the "secret disenfranchising attempt made by 
some of the  General Secretaries -- which i understand was just a 
suggestion rather than a  finalized move -- one needs to look at the reasons why this 
suggestion was  even thought about". In treating a disease, one can either 
look at the  symptoms or at the root cause.
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>> >>  >If you start looking at the root cause of this whole problem you 
will,  willy-nilly, trace it back to the ineffective leadership of the current 
 international president (which she has been over the past 29 years), Mrs 
Radha  Burnier and the policies she uses to "rule".
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>> >> >One will also notice, if one is perceptive, that  the attempt from 
Mrs Burnier's lobbyists has always been to look at the  symptoms and focus 
attention there, rather than to look at the root cause of  this whole division 
in the TS.
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>> >>  >One can then look at some of these things deeply and question them 
or  ponder over them: (a) What is all this fear doing in an organization 
that has  altruism as its ideal; (b) Why does the leader of this organization 
initiate  gossip and why has she never thought about the deep-seated effects 
this kind  of behaviour will generate among members; (c) One would expect 
the head of a  spiritual organization to have insight into human nature. Why  
has this  aspect of Mrs Burnier never found expression even though 
opportunities for  this insight and resultant understanding were present throughout 
her career as  president of the TS, including during the elections and its 
aftermath? and (d)  since we are all supposed to be intelligent, thinking, 
rational individuals,  why, even when the corruption rampant in Adyar is 
brought to everyone's  attention, are we allowing Mrs Burnier to rule our hearts 
and  minds?
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>> >> >Preethi
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>> >> >--- On Sat, 20/6/09, MKR  <mkr777@gmail. com> wrote:
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>>  >> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com>
>> >>  >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
>> >>  >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
>> >> >Date: Saturday,  20 June, 2009, 1:16 AM
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>> >>  >Cleansing is needed more urgently in the West, IMHO. Have we 
forgotten  last
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>> >> >year's failed ultra  secret attempt to disenfranchise all of us and 
handdful
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>> >> >of GC members seize power to "appoint" the  president, thus make the
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>> >>  >president a puppet in their hands?
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>>  >> >MKR
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>> >> >Visit  www.theosophy. net
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>> >> >On  6/16/09, preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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>> >> >> Hi  all,
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>> >> >> Am glad we are looking into  cleansing here. Cleansing is what the 
TS and
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>> >> >> especially its heart, Adyar, requires  today...and it is we who 
need to do
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>>  >> >> the cleansing... We members of the Theosophical Society.  Would 
you like to
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>> >> >> join  me?
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>> >> >> Preethi
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>>  >> >> --- On Mon, 15/6/09, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo.  
com<silva_cass% 40yahoo.com> >
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>> >> >> From: Cass  Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com <silva_cass% 
40yahoo.com>  >
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>> >> >> Subject: Re:  Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
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>>  >> >> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk%  40yahoogroups. com>
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>> >> >>  Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 7:06 AM
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>> >> >> Only  that the smoke from sage cleanses negative spirits?
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>> >> >> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail.  com>
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>> >> >> >Sent:  Monday, 15 June, 2009 1:17:44 AM
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>> >> >> >With all the bad entities  operating around us and perhaps 
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deluded victims,
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>> >> >> >HSO  mentioned that before he and HPB took residence anywhere, it 
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>> >> >> >approved by a Brother or Brothers and  it was cleansed of 
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>> >> >>  >influences etc. before they moved in. When the cleansing was 
done,  the
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cleansing was
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