Theos-Talk Archives (June 2009 Message tt00482)

Dear Anton,
 
Glad to see that at least one more person shares the view that bearing mutual responsibility and the need to awaken and work on ourselves will eventually resolve the majority of the issues that threaten the TS worldwide and Adyar especially today.
 
Most people, at least in India, do not even want to accept that there is a problem and issues to be resolved in the TS.
 
Regards
 
Preethi

--- On Sun, 21/6/09, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, 21 June, 2009, 10:15 AM








Dear Cass,

Every patient wants to be cured. Resistance is just sign of deep helplessness and is actually cry for help. The only remedy is truth of facts which can be very painful, so that some would rather die than expose it. But in this situation we are all patients and we can cure ourselves only with mutual help and humility. No one is above the situation, no one is without guilt. We all allowed it to happen, some more and some less. We are all in the same boat.

Best regards,
Anton

--- In theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com, Cass Silva <silva_cass@ ...> wrote:
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> Anton, the patient must want to be cured before any healing can take place!
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> >From: preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ ...>
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> >Sent: Saturday, 20 June, 2009 6:29:35 PM
> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
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> >If i could put it more appropriately cleansing is needed overall, but instead of harping on about the "secret disenfranchising attempt made by some of the General Secretaries -- which i understand was just a suggestion rather than a finalized move -- one needs to look at the reasons why this suggestion was even thought about". In treating a disease, one can either look at the symptoms or at the root cause.
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> >If you start looking at the root cause of this whole problem you will, willy-nilly, trace it back to the ineffective leadership of the current international president (which she has been over the past 29 years), Mrs Radha Burnier and the policies she uses to "rule".
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> >One will also notice, if one is perceptive, that the attempt from Mrs Burnier's lobbyists has always been to look at the symptoms and focus attention there, rather than to look at the root cause of this whole division in the TS.
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> >One can then look at some of these things deeply and question them or ponder over them: (a) What is all this fear doing in an organization that has altruism as its ideal; (b) Why does the leader of this organization initiate gossip and why has she never thought about the deep-seated effects this kind of behaviour will generate among members; (c) One would expect the head of a spiritual organization to have insight into human nature. Why  has this aspect of Mrs Burnier never found expression even though opportunities for this insight and resultant understanding were present throughout her career as president of the TS, including during the elections and its aftermath? and (d) since we are all supposed to be intelligent, thinking, rational individuals, why, even when the corruption rampant in Adyar is brought to everyone's attention, are we allowing Mrs Burnier to rule our hearts and minds?
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> >--- On Sat, 20/6/09, MKR <mkr777@gmail. com> wrote:
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> >From: MKR <mkr777@gmail. com>
> >Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
> >To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
> >Date: Saturday, 20 June, 2009, 1:16 AM
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> >Cleansing is needed more urgently in the West, IMHO. Have we forgotten last
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> >year's failed ultra secret attempt to disenfranchise all of us and handdful
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> >Visit www.theosophy. net
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> >On 6/16/09, preethi muthiah <seeker_preethi@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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> >> Am glad we are looking into cleansing here. Cleansing is what the TS and
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> >> the cleansing... We members of the Theosophical Society. Would you like to
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> >> From: Cass Silva <silva_cass@ yahoo. com <silva_cass% 40yahoo.com> >
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> >> Subject: Re: Theos-World Cleansing of bad influences
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> >> To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com <theos-talk% 40yahoogroups. com>
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> >> Date: Monday, 15 June, 2009, 7:06 AM
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