Theos-Talk Archives (June 2009 Message tt00468)

Dear Mr. Ramadoss,

You get so carried away! Please, ponder on  this simple question: did you, or didn't  really examine and study Mr. Keith Fisher's statements?  Did you actually verify all Mr. Fisher said,  with the original text of the Rules and Regulations?  

Mr. Ramadoss, one of the reasons I joined this group was because I really  admired your passion to 'go for it'. So, this is what want to say to you in all sincerity: do not wait until others inform you, be like Mr. Anand, and others,  go out on a search party for yourself. 

Roberta








--- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com, MKR <mkr777@...> wrote:
>
> When someone is speaking about documented facts, there should be no
> difficulty in identifying themselves. Perhaps if this person is in Adyar or
> in a situation where his/her room and board can be at risk, then at least
> he/she could have taken Anton or someone else into confidence and kept the
> identity private. Occasionally you find brave souls even in India who are
> brave enough to speak up.
> -
> As for Keith, I have known of him only thru his msg postings here. Also, we
> have to note that none of the information he provided in this maillist in
> the past has been proven untrue. Hence, I have no reason not to believe in
> the truth of his statement on this Indian Section issue until someone proves
> otherwise.
> -
> Many of the participants here should be thankful to him because it was he
> who volunteered to clarify about the matters he was privy to when he was
> Intl Secretary and he did. Usually most of the leaders and officers, for
> reasons of their own, avoid talking here. As I indicated elsewhere, only two
> General Secretaries have posted msgs on maillist in the last 10-15 years.
> -
> -
> MKR
> -
> Visit theosophy.net
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 20, 2009 at 12:48 PM, robertapimenta26 <
> robertapimenta26@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Dear Mr. Ramadoss,
> >
> > You are from beautiful India yourself, and as I wrote to you some time ago,
> > I have lived there too! So you, out of all people, should know that in your
> > culture and tradition, people find it extremely difficult to come out ito
> > the open, to step forward, in particular when it is about questioning or
> > correcting an authority. Hierarchies (there is another word for that system)
> > are still very much installed in Indian society, I am sure you're aware of
> > that. So it is not surprising some are afraid, and hide behind anonimity.
> >
> > Concerning Mr. Keith Fisher from Australia, Mr Ramadoss, I only wished you
> > were a little more prudent. I fully agree with you, he has been forthright,
> > Aussies would refer to him as ' a fair dinkum bloke', but have you really
> > and thoroughly studied his clarifications? Have you really...?
> >
> > Roberta
> >
> >
> > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Anton:
> > > .
> > > I the past, Keith has been forthright and the clarifications he has been
> > > providing were accurate and I have no reason to doubt that his
> > clarification
> > > on this issue is not true. Also, we are dealing with a statement from an
> > > anonymous visitor, and I wonder why anyone should hide in anonymity when
> > > they are dealing with truth.
> > > .
> > > I do not know if you will get a response from Sundaram. It is not unusual
> > > for even dues paying members not getting replies from their own elected
> > > national leaders.
> > > .
> > > In another conversation, you mentioned that in Slovenia your TS
> > membership
> > > was deleted because you did not pay the dues. It might help if rejoin
> > > and become a dues paying member of TS as it would give you better
> > standing
> > > in our ongoing discussions relating to TS-Adyar matters.
> > > .
> > > MKR
> > > .
> > > Visit theosophy.net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 6/20/09, Anton Rozman <anton_rozman@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dear Ramadoss,
> > > >
> > > > I think it is premature to make any conclusions. At this point we have
> > just
> > > > two conflicting statements regarding the exact wording in the original
> > > > document - an embarrassing situation by itself. Let's see if I will get
> > a
> > > > reply or/and a copy of the document from Mr. S. Sundaram.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Anton
> > > >
> > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> > 40yahoogroups.com>, MKR
> > > > <mkr777@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > At least the Indian Section formally adopted a resolution and
> > reported
> > > > it.
> > > > > -
> > > > > I have not seen any such in the American Section. I learnt of the
> > > > > nominations only when I received the electioneering letter from Betty
> > > > > alleging that Radha is sick and supporting voting for John.
> > > > > -
> > > > > May be American Section does the nomination differently.
> > > > > -
> > > > > Any one wants to clear the mystery.
> > > > > -
> > > > > MKR
> > > > > -
> > > > > Visit theosophy.net
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 12:11 PM, keith_fisher@
> > > > > <exsecy@>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One word has been altered from the original text.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can confirm that the actual wording in the report was as follows:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Council unanimously resolved that the Indian Section will
> > > > > > nominate Mrs. Radha Burnier for the International President
> > > > > > of the Theosophical Society for the next term of 7 years."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It is normal procedure for each General Secretary to consult
> > > > > > with the National Council Members in their own country on
> > > > > > who should be nominated for President
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Each General Secretary is allowed to make three nominations.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Best wishes
> > > > > > Keith
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Anand"
> > > > > > <AnandGholap@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In theos-talk@yahoogroups.com <theos-talk%40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> > 40yahoogroups.com><theos-talk%
> > > > 40yahoogroups.com>, "Anton
> > > > > > Rozman" <anton_rozman@> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dear friends,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > It seems that this message to vote Radha Burnier was extended
> > also
> > > > to
> > > > > > the rest of membership at least in one case as an anonymous visitor
> > of
> > > > my
> > > > > > web site sent me a notice that in the latest Annual Report of the
> > > > Indian
> > > > > > Section the General Secretary reported that "Council unanimously
> > > > resolved
> > > > > > that the Indian Section will support Mrs. Radha Burnier for the
> > > > > > International President of the Theosophical Society for the next
> > term
> > > > of 7
> > > > > > years."
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Till now I wasn't able to get confirmation of the correctness
> > of
> > > > this
> > > > > > passage from some other source therefore I wonder if there is
> > anyone on
> > > > this
> > > > > > list who can do this for us.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This annual report has not reached me.
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