Theos-Talk Archives (June 2009 Message tt00247)

Ok, this is going to take a bit of explaining.
 
In the late 19th and early 20th centuries, virtually all occult ideas in  
Europe and America were heavily influenced by Theosophy and HPB.  In that  
the inner circle of the Nazis included Rosenberg, Himmler and Hess, all of 
whom  were involved in various occult groups in Germany prior to and during 
their  involvement with the Nazis, it is not surprising that HPB's writings 
would get  mixed up in Nazism.  That had nothing to do with HPB.  She was long  
dead and would have been a most ardent opponent of fascism in all its 
forms,  including that of Annie Besant had HPB lived to see it.  
 
What happened is that her writings were so voluminous that it was possible  
for just about everyone to find something in them they could use, including 
the  Nazis.  
 
Of course the sort of people who insist that HPB was a nazi are not the  
sort of people who can be reasoned with.  The best way to deal with them is  
to laugh at them and remind everyone else that HPB was dead long before the  
nazis existed so unless she came back and visited them during a seance, it 
is  unlikely that she could have been one of them.
 
Chuck the Heretic
 
 
In a message dated 6/10/2009 10:57:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  
henrybellak@yahoo.com writes:

 
 


FYI,  on another list, I just mention theosophy of HPB and I get  response 
HPB
was a Nazi, or her books were used by the  Nazi's.

History channel, on show on the occult side of the  Nazi's,  shows
one of HPB's  books used by the  Nazi's.

Hard for me to show where HPB was not a Nazi or her thoughts  led to Nazism.
Henry B. Ellak

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Cass Silva <_silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ 
(mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com) >  wrote:

From: Cass Silva <_silva_cass@yahoo.sil_ (mailto:silva_cass@yahoo.com) >
Subject:  Re: Theos-World NARADA - MORTEN
To: _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
Date:  Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 8:08 PM

I want to know why Leadbeater or any  other theosophist didn't rebuke the 
Nazis, then or even now, for  distorting the teachings of HPB.

Cass

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>From: Morten  Nymann Olesen <_global-theosophy@global-thgl_ 
(mailto:global-theosophy@stofanet.dk) >
>To:  _theos-talk@yahoogrotheos-t_ (mailto:theos-talk@yahoogroups.com) 
>Sent:  Thursday, 11 June, 2009 5:25:39 AM
>Subject: Re: Theos-World NARADA -  MORTEN
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>Yes. But from this  "necessary evil" we also immediately also has an 
unnecessary  evil.
>Thats is at least logical to me. 
>
>And that again  will explain the Dugpa issue. - And also why the Sorcery 
at the Christian  Vatican and its High Mass and lip-prayers might be 
something else than what  those AAB followers would like to hear. Because the AAB 
followers like to  Invoke their own version of Christ as an external physical 
human and as a  giantic Male. A giant physical Male expected to come around 
year 2012-2040  according to their Bibles written by AAB through someone 
named D.K. and called  a Master.
>Books even claiminging to be partly based on HPB's writings  and books 
claiming that HPB's teachings will be vindicated AND justified! -  ("A Treatise 
on Cosmic Fire", page 707-8, written 1925, by Alice A.  Bailey)
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>- - - - - - -
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>And H. P. Blavatsky  said:
>"The Society founded to remedy the glaring evils of Christianity,  to shun 
bigotry and intolerance, cant and superstition and to cultivate real  
universal love extending even to the dumb brute".
>(The Collected  Writings of H. P. Blavatsky, vol. 7, p.246) 
>
>Master KH wrote in  a Mahatma Letter:
>For the opposition represents enormous vested  interests, and they have 
enthusiastic help from the Dugpas -- in Bhootan and  the Vatican!
>(Here is all of Mahtama Letter, No. 55. Dugpas are the  same as selfish 
Magicians.) 
>
>M. Sufilight
>
>-----  Original Message ----- 
>From: Cass Silva 
>To: Theosophy  
>Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 5:23 AM
>Subject: Theos-World  NARADA - MORTEN
>
>Unfortunately my pc refuses to reply to your  email so trying a new way.
>Cass
>Great, thanks for this Morten,  obviously Phillip Lindsay drew off HPB. 
Found this sentence intriguing  
>"Nor is it through any ambitious or selfish motive; but, verily, to  serve 
and guide universal progress and evolution."
>
>HPB is  suggesting that Narada is a neccessary evil in balancing the 
karmic load.  
>So are the dugpas an enfoldment of Narada on the physical plane - or  do 
they yet again, have a different agenda? 
>
>Cass  
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