Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
Jun 09, 2009 02:00 PM
by Antonio
Not in my opinion. I think as humanity we have many leaders be it religious, entertainment, political, theoretical, scientific, philosophical and so on. There are leaders in many feilds of life and as we take on board their thoughts and opinions we become those thoughts and opinions if they agree with us. To lead in todays current climate that has a considerable lack of leadership in my opinion is not a bad thing. I think people need a global goal and a universal focus or we become a ravaging virus eating away at the resources of the earth until eventually there is little or nothing left. With a leader or a teacher we can focus on one common goal and all work towards a better end. Without a master, teacher or leader the pupil can not learn the traditions handed down but must make the best use of his experiences , instincts , beleiefs and thoughts. Karma does not enter the equation. We are all a consequence of our own actions or inactions. What i am
trying to say is that as a whole humanity has a global karmic and conscious existence. Individually/selfishly we can only aim to improve our own direct lives and the lives of family and freinds but with a collective approach we can also help those that do not have the qualities to help themselves. I dont think leaders or leadership leads to a cult mentality. I would like to think as a team leader at work i help my collegues work toward a universal work ethos that benefits the company and its aims and objectives. No cult just team work goals and achievments. ;)
--- On Tue, 9/6/09, henrybellak@yahoo.com <henrybellak@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: henrybellak@yahoo.com <henrybellak@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 9:50 PM
Well, OK Antonio.
I think a persons Karma determines what happens to a person. And this Karma
of a person does not need a leader of any kind. Karma covers, thoughts, desires,
speech, and
behaviors.
I am not religious, I have no religion of any kind. I do not have a religious
leader of any kind. I will never have a religious leader of any kind.
I am judged by the lords of Karma [a manner of speaking] on my thoughts,
words, deeds
etc, alone, without a world leader.
As Much as I like HPB, for example, she is not my leader.
Does not the leader principle lead to cult mentality?
Henry B. Ellak
--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Antonio <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
From: Antonio <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 7:27 PM
I speak of the time when the world leader arrives to greet humanity. A process will begin in which good and evil will finally be seperated. Those that fail to take on the benevolent teachings of the world teacher will fall to the waste side. Those that adhear to his teachings will move forward in their spiritual evolution. This is what i meant by what i said and by no means was a personal attack on any individual, simply an accumilated perspective based on the the knowledge of end time prophecies i have digested over time.
When i said non-existence i meant it inline of the following context and not a physical death, however this eventuality may become a reality also!
"The most beautiful thing we can
experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger,who can no longer pause to wonder and stand wrapt in awe, is as good as dead." Albert Einstein
Peace and blessings
Antonio.
--- On Tue, 9/6/09, Henry B. Ellak <henrybellak@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Henry B. Ellak <henrybellak@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 June, 2009, 2:02 AM
I can only say, that I have no leader, and """"I will not utterly perish into non-existence" ""!
Antonio. are you really saying, that myself and others, who do not have a leader,
will utterly perish into non-existence? I may be reading you wrong as I have been
away from this list for a while.
However, I do not believe in the leader principle, I have no leader and I am 64 years old.
I have not perished into non-existence by not having a leader.
end Henry B. Ellak
--- On Mon, 6/8/09, Antonio <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk> wrote:
From: Antonio <spirit777child@ yahoo.co. uk>
Subject: Re: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 5:43 PM
I would
have to agree. Sadly those that do not obide, those that do not see the universal love eminating from a benvolent leader will utterly perish into non-existence.
Peace and blessings
Antonio
--- On Mon, 8/6/09, Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk> wrote:
From: Morten Nymann Olesen <global-theosophy@ stofanet. dk>
Subject: Theos-World AAB and The Maitreya and Messiah flaw
To: theos-talk@yahoogro ups.com
Date: Monday, 8 June, 2009, 10:37 PM
Dear friends
My views are:
"People are always looking for leaders; that does not mean that this is the time for a leader. The problems that a leader would be able to resolve have not been identified.
Nor does the clamor mean that those who cry out are suitable followers. Most of the people who demand a leader seem to have some baby's idea of what a leader should do. The idea that a leader will walk in and we will all recognize him and follow him and everybody will be happy strikes me as a strangely immature atavism. Most of these people, I believe, want not a leader but excitement. I doubt that those who cry the loudest would obey a leader if there was one. Talk is cheap, and a lot of the talk comes from millions of old washerwomen. " (Idries Shah)
The Law of Karma is not bending it self down in front of ignorance.
M. Sufilight
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